Fida
George, this is too much ????- I really don't
want you going out of your way so much! It's a lot
of work - ask me ?? (Facebook message from Fida
Jiryis to me - my response follows below - followed
by my book review of her book.)
Fida,
I seek meaning in my life. With meaning - comes:
grief, anger, frustration, as well as joy and
happiness and much more!
I'm almost 72 years old. I grew up in an
Anti-Racist, progressive household - that was also
dysfunctional and horrible for me in other ways. I
first arrived in Israel on a ZIM - ocean going boat
from Naples to Haifa when I was almost 12 years
old. I remember that day and the next morning. My
father moved from Berlin to Cincinnati - in 1927
when he was 9 years old. He saw many of his
relatives for the first time since 1927 then in
1963. You can see - if you look on the attachment
of the wealth of my great-grandfather - who sold
his bank to Deutsche Bank in 1904 or so.
My "Tante Rifkah" - my great-aunt - scandalized
her father by coming to Palestine as a single woman
in about 1919. Her husband and then her oldest son
- owned orange groves - much land - you KNOW - the
story beyond and then as well. My brother was named
after a relative Daniel Eliasberg - who was killed
in the Naqba. SY Agnon - Israel's first Nobel
Laureate - married a younger sister of my
grandfather. My grandfather moved to Jerusalem in
1963.
I saw my paternal grandfather for the last time
in August, 1968, when I was a last minute
replacement - taking my maternal grandfather - on
his first trip to "Israel". We were the first
Jewish tour to stay in East Jerusalem. I left our
hotel in the evening - in the dark - walked to the
King David Hotel - where I met a young woman - (I
was 17, she was perhaps 20) - who was the only
other tour member - who was within 40 years of our
ages and we walked in the Old City. I wasn't scared
- in the dark - in East Jerusalem.
The Old City was fascinating to me. There was
still a lot of merchandise from before the 1967 -
slaughter. Our tour - took us to some places - that
later on were not visitable by Jewish tours. I
remember the Palestinian boys - seeking a little
money from us - as our bus stopped in their
town.
On later visits - I was introduced by a cousin
(much older a generation older than me) - to
Gerschom Scholem - a noted Kabbalist Scholar - in
Jerusalem - not long before he died (he came in
1925) - from whom I heard stories of my family. He
had known my grandfather in Berlin just after World
War I - and knew many other relatives of mine.
I also - had a memorable visit on a later trip
with another cousin who owned a - custom made -
dress shop in West Jerusalem. She told me a story
that I want to share. Her husband and she had this
dress shop dating well before the Naqba. Their
customers - were wealthy Palestinian and Jewish
women. In 1967 - an old "Arab" man came into her
shop and asked for her husband. She told him that
he had died and he began crying. He had been the
porter for the dress shop - until the Naqba -
placed him in "Jordan" (The Old City) - where he
still lived.
This man insisted - that whenever my cousin came
to the Old City that he would carry her bags for
her. He would NOT take any money from her!
I don't know if my words mean anything to you or
not. I am crying as I write.
While I may not "owe" you anything, I have a
HUGE debt to your people! My family never had any
USian slaveholders. None of my family was in the
United States prior to 1900. My family directly and
indirectly has supported - the Settlers of 1918-9 -
through the present.
I can NOT possibly do "too much" for you! I am
doing it for myself! I'm not - feeling guilt or
shame. I am feeling a deep sadness and a deep
feeling that what little I can do - is Not Enough.
I will do what I can. Please - tell me if I do
something wrong! Living in discomfort - related to
this is important for me. My most major work is
Anti-Racism and Reproductive Justice Work.
Please read the quote below - which was and is
very prophetic!
Thank YOU very much for your
kindness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
George - see below:
https://www.georgemarx.org/2022/12/palestine-israel-judiasm-posts-links-my.html
https://www.georgemarx.org/2021/06/reclaiming-judaism-from-zionism.html
In March 1919,on the eve of the post World
War I Paris Peace Conference, Julius Kahn,
the German-born Jewish congressman from San
Francisco, delivered to President Wilson A
Statement to the Peace Conference endorsed by
299 Jews.
[T]he document denounced
the Zionists for attempting to segregate Jews and
to reverse the historical trend toward
emancipation. Its signers objected to
the creation of a distinctly Jewish state in
Palestine not only because they feared it
would jeopardize the status of Jews like themselves
in the home countries, but because they found it
contrary to the principles of
democracy to elevate Jewish immigrants over
Palestines Muslim and Christian native
inhabitants. They explicitly denied the
existence of ethnic ties among Jews and
asserted their wish not to see Palestine
either now or at any time in the future
become a Jewish state. They petitioned
instead for Palestine to be made into an
independent , free, and democratic state that would
not recognize any distinctions of creed, race, or
ethnic descent among its citizens.
(18) (p. xii)
How True these words from 104 years ago
remain true!!!
Stranger in My Own Land: Palestine, Israel and
One Familys Story of Home is an incredibly
moving, powerful story that will move all besides
die-hard supporters of Israel, who wont
listen to any message incongruent with their
perspective. Fida Jiryis tells her story in a
deeply personal way that brings up nearly all the
issues relevant to what has and continues to go on.
She humanizes and criticizes many, including
Arafat, Jewish Israelis, as well as fellow
Palestinians, including herself.
Jirysis has a perfect right to be bitter and
angry. She takes her anger, and uses it to try to
reach us Jewish Americans and many others - who
could choose to listen. She cares about others,
both near and afar. Fida Jiryis is one who remains
an outsider wherever she lives and whatever she
does. She is fluent in Hebrew, English and Arabic.
She has seen so much! She has learned so much! It
goes well beyond facts - and does
include a lot that is factual.
What is so difficult for me to acknowledge, is
that for so - so many - her words and she
dont matter! The Palestinian leadership that
she seeks, has largely been obliterated by well
over 50 years of murders, assassinations,
imprisonment, exile and much more. She asserts the
obvious, that The Palestinian Authority and Hamas
are both corrupt and ineffective. Her father, a
former Arafat advisor, a lawyer educated at Hebrew
University (in Jerusalem), perhaps is no longer
perceived as a threat. He is now 85 years old
He lost his first wife to a political bombing in
Beirut - which was at a minimum, supported by the
Israeli Government. His second wife, a younger
sister of his first wife, and and the authors
second mother - was deeply loved by Fida Jiryis.
Her death of a heart attack at 57, while kidney
disease and diabetes ravaged her body, no doubt was
really caused by the pressures of
living as a Palestinian Israeli citizen in
Israel.
When forced to live for several months in Safed
in the mid-1960s, unable to do his normal
work as a lawyer, Sabri Jiryis, Fidas father
came into a local bookstore, filled with works of
noted Zionists:
The titles were by Theodor Herzl,
Leon Pinsker, Moshe Hess, Moshe Lilenblum, Asher
Zvi Ginzberg (Ahad Haam), Zvi Kalischer,
and Max Nordau. Sabri bought one book, read it
that evening, and came back the next day. The
books were small and focused upon the thought
behind the movement. They were written before
the First Zionist Conference in 1897. On the
third day, he asked the shopkeeper: Can
you sell me everything on this shelf?
Sabri bought more than 20 books.
(p.110)
1982 - in Lebanon:
It went on for two days. While the
Israelis kept guard outside the (note: refugee)
camps, about 350 Palestinians and Lebanese were
butchered with knives or gunned down as they
pleaded for their lives and for their loved
ones. (p.218)
The death of Fidas mother:
No one anticipated the force of the
attack that took place. As the employees were
coming out, a car carrying 550 pounds of
dynamite exploded outside, setting the building
on fire and blowing the windows out of nearby
apartments. (p.222) (note: Jirysiss father
survived the attack while in the same building
they both worked at)
My father went to the American University
Hospital, where the ambulances had taken the
dead. When he walked into the lobby, he say my
mother, lying on a stretcher.
She had lost her life. (p.223)
Fida Jiryis learned as she moved from Lebanon,
to Cyprus, to her parents village in Israel,
to Canada, and then to Ramallah, on the West Bank.
She noted:
Yet, the Druze did not gain much
from their allegiance to Israel. The state did
not treat non-Jews with equality, even if they
served in its army. The majority of Druze lands
were confiscated for Jewish use, and the state
demolished homes in Druze villages where
building permits were denied - just like it did
in other Palestinian communities. Their
neighborhoods were congested, underfunded
ghettos, like those of Christians and Muslims.
(p.298)
Equality? Who is kidding who?
A few Arab boys were working
in Atzmon for a while, but some people were
upset and made them leave. And for a few days
now theyve been throwing stones at our
cars as we pass. Its really
stressful!
Why were they fired? I
asked.
Oh, you know
she looked
uncomfortable, waving her hand.
Some people just dont want
Arabs working in the community.
(p.320)
I guess its really tough to be Jewish - in
Israel!
Eva explained. Youve
created a big problem for her.
What?
You were educated abroad, your
English is fluent, you hold a higher position
than hers, you make more money than she does,
and she cant handle it. Youre not
the Arab shes been told about, the
backward, illiterate savage who lives in a tent
and keeps camels. She doesnt know what box
to put you in. (p.348)
Are we talking about apartheid South Africa
where we united to take away white
power? Is this Mississippi in the early
1960s? No - this is what Palestinians must
live with over and over and over and over again.
The Settlers rarely, if ever, are punished!
Palestinians - nearly always!
His mother fought with the
assailants and the child managed to wriggle
free. But, in the early hours of the morning, a
group of Jewish settlers kidnapped, tortured,
and burned alive another boy, Mohammed Abu
Khdeir. (p.410)
Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden endorse Israel and
condemn the Palestinians - even more so now, than
when these atrocities happened! It has gotten much,
worse, the natural progression - from the past. The
recently elected Israeli Government wasnt in
power yet, when this book was completed.
The Palestinians didnt push Anti-Semitism
upon us Jews for many centuries as the Europeans
and Russians did! The Palestinians didnt kill
six million of us - as the Germans, and their
collaborators did!
We have been traumatized and need to heal
ourselves! Until we do so, we will persist in
committing Apartheid - my word, not Fida
Jiryiss.
She is remarkably patient - seeking to meet on
Zoom with us Jews, who support her cry for
justice!
Watch Peter Beinart of Jewish Currents
interviewing her on February 17, 2023 at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxMzA7LjQ8s
.
Maybe then, youll make the extra effort to
buy this book. Bookstores wont carry it -
because they would have to sell it well above
list for it to be commercially viable.
It is well worth the effort! I got it one day after
ordering it.
This is an incredible book! The occasional odd
typo - cant detract at all - from the
incredible heart that Fida Jiryis has. Her research
for this book is excellent. Her father and others
in her life are and were real - caring people like
her. You wont be disappointed!
CHANEL - "KNOW MY NAME" -
R E A D M E
Wed gotten an arrest, a guilty
verdict, the small percentage that gets the
conviction. It was time to see what justice looked
like. We threw open the doors, and there was
nothing. It took the breath out of me. Even worse
was looking back down to the bottom of the
mountain, where I imagined expectant victims
looking up, waving, cheering expectantly. What do
you see? What does it feel like? What happens when
you arrive? What could I tell them? A system does
not exist for you. The pain of this process
couldnt be worth it. These crimes are not
crimes but inconveniences. You can fight and fight
and for what? When you are assaulted, run and never
look back. This was not one bad sentence. This was
the best that we could hope for.
To him, my lost job, my damaged
hometown, my small savings account, my stolen
pleasures, had all amounted to ninety days in
county jail.
I wondered if, in their eyes, the victim
remained stagnant, living forever in that twenty
minute time frame. (p.241)
Know My Name a memoir is Chanel
Millers story. It is a story where the
survivor of an assault, pine needles permeating her
upper body, abrasions painfully attacking her
partially nude body - exposed to others -
unconscious, 100% unconscious, was deemed the
consequence of drinking too much alcohol, her
choosing to pee nearby, justifiably preyed
upon.
Her assailant, was seemingly an
innocent perpetrator, making a
bad decision Because hes been
drinking, a few minutes of foolishness resulted in
something that he deeply regretted. He doesnt
have a bad bone in his body. Hes a most
serious student, a caring, loving person.
(Lets note, that for all his supposed
remorse, he pled innocent and appealed
his conviction. Being a lifelong sex
offender - isnt helpful in his
life.)
Change the story a bit. Im a poor, Black,
teenage, young man. My mother doesnt have
enough money for the rent and enough food for our
family. I pulled out a handgun, with No Intention
of shooting anyone, and have taken your wallet and
cell phone.
Its not really armed robbery
because he only got your debit cards, along with
your ids. He wasnt doing it for
himself, but for his family. Hes sincerely
sorry! Three months in jail will easily be enough.
Hes going to get his g.e.d., and is turning
his life around.
Ive obviously been drinking far too
much, and I dont even consume
alcohol!
This good young man - as his many
witnesses attested, strangely knew nothing about
drinking (he made a mistake drinking - something
hed not previously done), yet Miller found
out that hed had multiple issues recorded
locally in his four months of college, related to
illicit drugs and intoxicating liquors.
Chanel Millers voice pierced and pierces
me very deeply! I know that the books impact
on many men, and some women will be significantly
less than it was for me, but it is an important
story to take in as deeply as one can. The story is
important for a number of reasons. Many men need to
understand rape, sexism in general and much more
related to gender and sex at a much deeper level.
We are insulated from a lot of realities of being
female, unless weve been directly impacted
directly or hurt by violence perpetrated upon a
very close relative or friend. Even then, many
wont share their hurts and fears and more,
protecting us from ugly truths.
I suspect for some women particularly,
acknowledging the horrible truths of assault
survivors is oft times a huge part of a wall they
face, they dont want to acknowledge. Imagine
- that as a young child, you faced the death of
your own sibling. Similarly, from sexual assault,
one faces a deep wound, that will never fully
heal.
A great strength of the book is the deep
humanity Chanel Miller shows. She was and is
vulnerable. She has built her owns strength out of
both her trauma, and the support she has gotten
from many caring people. She is a sexual being. She
seeks pleasure in life. She need not be a
nun for us to feel deeply for her.
This book deeply exposes the blame
game, and how we often distance ourselves
from uncomfortable truths with excuses to avoid our
own discomfort. I dont like Millers use
of the word girl, rather than
woman or young woman, nor:
victim rather than survivor
at times in this book. Though it bothers me, this
is my issue, not hers. This is no excuse for not
respecting the bravery and significance of this
young woman. Her writes shows her
realness.
There are many bad guys exposed in
this book. Besides Brock Turner, and his family and
supporters, and those who wrote insensitive things
blaming Chanel Miller for her own victimization,
Stanford University comes across very poorly. Some
of their staff member as well as court and other
officials seemed and seem stuck in the
rules and obeying, rather than
looking at the realities of our justice system and
how it victimizes victims, particularly where they
are already deeply disempowered.
We need to see how systemic issues are key here!
While the judge who sentence Brock Turner was
horrible and deserved the recall that he faced, he
was simply a cog in the justice system
which victimizes Black People and Women far, far
too much. We need to hear the stories, and change
things from the lowest level to the top.
I listened last evening to our co-host speak of
how he was a top student at the top
school, and yet he couldnt get a job he
deserved in a field where 90% of the students were
female, and far more than 90% of the professors
were male. Brains and grades and similar - are
important, yes. At the same time we need to
educate those around us with far more
than one can learn from a few books. We, the men,
need to really hear women in our schools,
communities and at home. Not all women - are allies
- in the sexism related wars either.
This book is not - a women is good
and men are horrible book. Two Swedish
male graduate students came upon the assault, and
prevented the assailant from fleeing. Mr. Kim, a
police official, was very supportive of Ms.
Miller.
I hope that many of us men will read this book,
and then share it in discussion with other men. I
hope also that we will listen and really hear - the
words of women who we respect and feel closeness
to.
I was forced to fight, in a legal system I
did not understand, the bald judge in the black
robe, the defense attorney with narrow glasses.
Brock with his lowered chin, his unsmiling father,
the appellate attorney.
I read comments that
laughed at my pain.
One by one, they became
powerless, fell away, and when the dust settled, I
looked around to see who was left.
Only Emily Doe. I survived because I remained
soft, because I listened, because I wrote. Because
I huddled close to my truth, protected it like a
tiny flame in a terrible storm. Hold up your head
when the tears come, when you are mocked, insulted,
questioned, threatened, when they tell you you are
nothing, when your body is reduced to openings.
I dust myself off, and go on. (p.328 - the
conclusion of the book.)
I have never faced anywhere near the trauma that
Chanel Miller faced, and continues to face, as she
moves ahead in her life! I hope that we can learn
from her words how to be more effective allies,
reaching beyond our comfort zones, supporting those
- who are different in their realities
of their lives - than we are. We do not
need to be victims and survivors - to care - and to
really care - is to try to be there for others - to
support their journeys as we pursue our paths in
life.
George Hrbek - (6/27/31
- 2/19/23) an Amazing Man - I was Lucky to
Briefly Meet (through Zoom)
I'm deeply saddened to learn of the death of
George Hrbek yesterday, February 19, 2023. I'm very
glad that I moved forward to co-produce a workshop
featuring him - November 15, 2022 - which is
available to watch on YouTube at:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxMm4R5Rs8
.
One can also learn more of George's amazing life
at:
crossculturalsolidarity.com/george-hrbek-the-selma-minister-who-built-a-white-antiracist-spiritual-community-in-chicago/
and/or
voicesforjusticecle.wordpress.com/2015/03/13/background-on-rev-george-hrbek/
Personally - I now need to modify my blog
entry:
S O M E " A N C E S T O R
S"
Anne
Braden
bell
hooks
George
Hrbek (very much alive)
James
Baldwin
Howard
Zinn
Shirley
Chisholm
with deep sadness!
George, at 91, was a role model for me, and
perhaps all of us! He spoke of Sexism being
important,, along with Racism. He wanted to listen
and learn from the younger people, including much,
much younger than both he and I. He was gentle, but
strong and assertive, also. He had a sense of
humor.
He was so, so much - that words fail me in
describing him! To work to ally Black and white
churches in Selma, Alabama - from 1958-1961 was
amazing - incredible, even! To then - become a
friend and ally of Fred Hampton in Chicago in the
years before he was murdered by the Chicago Police
- with the FBI deeply involved - working on racism
and worker's rights set an huge positive example
for all of us.
I, like most of us, had never heard of George
Hrbek, until I got an invitation - to his (Zoom
based) 91st Birthday Party - which was an
invitation to get to know him a little. I reached
out to his ally and friend Lynn Burnett - to try to
plan a workshop - so we could hear his voice more
deeply.
I've said enough! My tears are intense! I'm sad!
I feel lucky - to have been involved in a tiny
snippet of his amazing life!
Social justice giant George Hrbek dies
at 91
Published February 21, 2023 at 6:58 PM EST
Lutheran Metropolitan Ministry
A Lutheran pastor who spent much of the civil
rights era in Alabama where he attempted to
desegregate churches. Hrbek helped create the Selma
chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership
Conference. In the early 1970s, Hrbek was hired as
one of the first staff members of Lutheran
Metropolitan Ministry, a Cleveland social services
organization.
Rev. George Hrbek, a social justice giant in
Northeast Ohio and former head of Lutheran
Metropolitan Ministry, died over the weekend. He
was 91.
The Lutheran pastor spent much of the civil
rights era in Alabama where he attempted to
desegregate churches. Hrbek helped create the Selma
chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership
Conference, a civil rights organization founded by
Martin Luther King Jr.
"In advocacy or social services, more and more
people today think of, you got to include people in
all parts of the planning that you're trying to
serve," longtime family-friend Michael Sering said.
"George has been doing that for 70 years."
Hrbek had a personal relationship with King.
Hrbek moved from Alabama to Chicago, where he
worked to educate other white people about allyship
and racism. His messages were often advised by
King, who was also working in Chicago at the
time.
In the early 1970s, Hrbek was hired as one of
the first staff members of Lutheran Metropolitan
Ministry, a Cleveland social services organization
that began operating the 2100 Lakeside Men's
Shelter when Hrbek became the ministry's interim
executive director.
Hrbek was brought into the Lutheran Metropolitan
Ministry fold by Rev. Dick Sering, co-founder of
the ministry and Michael Sering's father.
The families were very close. Michael Sering,
who was babysat by Hrbek's children, is now the
ministry's current vice president of housing &
shelter. He said Hrbek was the perfect person to
manage the shelter.
"Talking to the guys at the shelter. What did
they need? What can we do better? How do we
advocate? What services? And it was such a good
launch to bring the culture that was necessary and
helpful," Sering said.
Sering described Hrbek as bold and said he
lacked fear of consequences.
"He was 'roll up the sleeves, let's make stuff
happen,'" Sering said. "He'd been arrested multiple
times for advocacy and demonstrations and every
thing else and that was the least of his
worries.
Hrbek hired Charles See to work for Lutheran
Metropolitan Ministry in the 1970s. The two became
close friends.
"If it was racial injustice, George was at the
forefront," See said. "And always challenging white
folks standing in the way of that."
See says Hrbek was never afraid to step up to
institutions that stood in the way of equality.
"He would always point out where Jesus stood.
That Jesus stood with the poor, with the forgotten
and the oppressed. And he said that's where he
belonged. That was his ministry," See said.
Hrbek was an activist until the end - advocating
last month at City Council for residents
to control how part of Cleveland's budget is
spent.
Just after this 90th birthday, Hrbek did an
extensive
interview with historian
Lynn Burnett.
"When we think in the days ahead and the years
ahead, we certainly will remember George," See
said. "We'll be encouraged and his example will
continue to be there to spur the best of us
on."
(Lynn Burnett's words - below):
I appreciate this obituary about my dear friend
George, which emphasizes his connection to Martin
Luther King. However, I feel the need to offer some
correctives. There's often a tendency, whenever
people have connections to King, for the press to
overemphasize those connections
and to under
emphasize others. It feels especially important to
me to point out that George was actually far
closer, emotionally and personally, to Black
Panther Party leader Fred Hampton than he was to
King. And yet Fred Hampton isn't mentioned in the
article.
George met Fred Hampton while Fred was still in
high school, leading demonstrations against
segregated swimming pools. George organized
numerous speaking engagements for Fred Hampton, and
personally drove him to them. Fred Hampton is
obviously famous for his commitment to multiracial
organizing, and was interested in the White
antiracist spiritual community George Hrbek ran. He
spoke to that community as well, which was
affectionately called "The Mansion."
Fred shared much of his emotional life - his
passions and his fears - with George during their
many personal conversations, and George grew to
care for him deeply. As I wrote in my story about
George Hrbek, "During the twenty-five hours of
interviews on which this writing is based, George
Hrbek expressed more fondness for Fred Hampton than
for any other single person, with the exception of
his own family."
In comparison, George Hrbek only had one
conversation with Martin Luther King
but it
was a long and important one. Their meeting took
place in the basement of a union hall, where George
brainstormed with Martin around how to best create
the White antiracist spiritual community he was
envisioning
a community that would educate
and train White folks to go beyond fighting racism
in surface-level ways, and learn how to tackle the
roots of systemic racial inequality. Martin Luther
King strongly endorsed those ideas, and spent over
an hour helping George brainstorm how to implement
them. That single conversation helped lay important
foundations for George's work for years to
come.
George would work much closer, however, with an
important leader in King's organization: Jesse
Jackson, who also isn't mentioned in this obituary.
Members of the Mansion would volunteer on the
weekend with Jackson's Breadbasket Campaign, and
George was part of a small group of leaders from
different organizations who met regularly with
Jackson to coordinate ideas and actions
usually over drinks in an upscale cocktail
lounge.
The last thing I want to say is that I've seen
many articles where George Hrbek is described as
one of the founders of the Selma chapter's SCLC,
but in all of my conversations with George, he was
very careful to emphasize that he was merely there.
He was present and he was a supporter of the Selma
chapter of King's organization at its inception,
but he didn't play much of a role in organizing,
maintaining and building that chapter. In my
understanding, George Hrbek's main role in Selma
was being the rare example of a White Selma
resident speaking out, and ACTING out, against Jim
Crow. Doing that publicly, and especially as the
leader of a congregation in Selma, was huge.
Building relationships of trust across racial lines
in the Jim Crow South was huge. And figuring out
how to use his influence as a minister to support
Selma's grassroots Black leadership was
huge.
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Building And Sustaining
A Healthy Men's Anti-Rape Group
I. INTRODUCTION
This paper focuses on men's anti-rape organizing
from the perspective of one member of a men's
pro-feminist anti-rape group. We work at educating
ourselves and other "normal" men. I hope that a lot
of my ideas will be adaptable to others'
situations. I will try to separate issues into
fairly distinct sections, although they will
inevitably overlap.
My ideas have been strongly influenced by many
people. I wish to particularly recognize the
influences of Chuck Schobert and other members of
Men Stopping Rape Inc. (MSR), with whom I have
grown. Fellow anti-rape activists Tim Beneke, Mark
Stevens, Kenn Arning, John Stoltenberg and Jack
Straton have helped me greatly. I wish to
particularly thank Jack Straton for his editting
and proofreading help! My consciousness has been
greatly raised by numerous other helpful men from
the Pro-Feminist Men's Movement of which we are a
part.
I wish to also strongly acknowledge the ideas of
numerous activists in the Feminist Women's
Movement. Of particular note I would like to thank
Andrea Dworkin, Susan Brownmiller and Diana
Russell. Without many of these women's important
work there would not be a Men's Movement. Our debts
to the Women's Movement can not be
overemphasized.
The Pro-Feminist Men's Movement evolved out of
the modern Women's Movement largely in the 1970's
and 1980's. It seeks to expand our visions of what
being a man can be within our society. We work to
help bring about a world where sexism (including
heterosexism), racism, violence and in my view
classism) are not predominant. Many men in the
Men's Movement support the struggles of other
progressive movements such as the Women's Movement,
the Gay/Lesbian Liberation Movements, various
liberation struggles in other countries, various
anti-militarism movements, the efforts of
differently abled people to be accepted as valued
whole people and various struggles to end racism
within our country, etc.
The writings that follow switch from first to
second to third person singular and plural to
reflect what I feel are the most effective ways of
saying different things. I have tried to use "s/he"
and similar pronouns when I feel the situation is
likely to refer to both women and men and words
like "he" when in most situations what I am
referring to would refer to a man. This is meant to
be a readable work, and not a professional
paper.
Readers of this material are encouraged to
duplicate part or all of the writing to allow
others to read it. It is deliberately not protected
by a copyright. I wish to receive constructive
feedback including suggestions for expansion and/or
clarification of my ideas. I want my name and
address spread with the excerpting of parts of this
writing to encourage further communication. Please
try to respect my ideas, by crediting them when
used in other writing, and sending me a copy of it
for my records. Hopefully this paper will expand
and be re-written over time.
This paper is part of the the Men's Anti-Rape
Resource Center's collection of materials. M.A.R.C.
[P.O. Box 497, Madison WI 53701-0497] is a
joint project of Men Stopping Rape, Inc of Madison,
WI and The Ending Men's Violence Task Group of The
National Organization for Changing Men. Both groups
are not-for-profit. Inquiries to M.A.R.C. are most
welcome! (NOTE: 1996 - M.A.R.C. CEASED SOME YEARS
AGO)
TABLE OF CONTENTS
II. WHERE DOES ONE
BEGIN?
III. CLARIFYING WHERE ONE IS
AT
IV. DOING SOMETHING AS A GROUP
- THE EARLY STAGES
V. GROUP LEADERSHIP
VI. DECISION MAKING WITHIN
ONE'S GROUP
VII. HOMOPHOBIA AND INTERNAL
COMPETITION
VIII.REACHING MEN
IX. MEN'S REACTIONS TO
ANTI-RAPE WORK AND HOW TO DEAL WITH
THEM
X. DEALING WITH MEN'S ANGER
TOWARDS WOMEN
XI. WORKING WITH
WOMEN
XII. BURNOUT
XIII.THE MEDIA
XIV. COMMUNICATION OUTSIDE
ONE'S GROUP
XV. FUNDRAISING
XVII. SOME SUGGESTED WORKSHOP
POSSIBILITIES
XVIII. ENDING RAPE AS A
RADICAL VISION FOR MEN
XIX.
CONCLUSIONS/OTHER
II. WHERE DOES ONE
BEGIN?
Beginning in anti-rape work can be both very
difficult and very easy. One clearly needs to focus
on opening up one's horizons. At some point one
must focus one's energy into relatively clear
areas. Unlike the area of domestic violence, it is
not immediately clear what one's focus is to be.
The question of focus alone has multiple
dimensions.
One can focus on:
1) providing financial or other support for rape
victims and existing organizations that help
them,
2) consciousness raising/education within one's
anti-rape group,
3) trying to do consciousness raising/education
work with:
a) already supportive men,
b) potentially supportive men,
c) apathetic men,
d) hostile men,
e) e) helping professionals,
f) f) law enforcement or other public officials
or
4) direct action such as:
a) demonstrations,
b) boycotts,
c) guerrilla theater,
d) creating or supporting artistic
endeavors.
e) One could also focus on counseling:
1) male rape victims, 2) male rapists, 3)
significant others of rape victims or
perpetrators.
You may be able to come up with various other
areas as well.
One can try to focus on rape alone. One can also
see rape in relation to domestic violence, incest,
militarism/war, or pornography. Rape can be
visualized as a natural outcome of many things in
our society or as an aberration that is not
understandable. One's approach can seek answers to
rape through feminist theory or seek answers
outside of feminism. Within the area of rape, one
can focus on stranger rapes, acquaintance assaults
or both of them.
Anti-rape work can focus on the general public,
victims, perpetrators, the media, the police, the
courts, legislative bodies etc. It can be focused
on a neighborhood, school, part of a city, a city,
a state, a region or be a national effort. It can
be done in groups that include men only, men and
women, men only in cooperation with a women's only
group etc.
It can be work with no funding whatsoever,
limited monies, or rely on significant funding
sources such as major grants. It can be a single,
planned event. It can also focus on particular
times of the year, or be ongoing over many years.
Doing anti-rape work can involve one dedicated
individual, a small group of friends or allies or a
larger group. When a group is involved it can work
alone or in cooperation with other groups such as
women's groups, progressive political groups,
college or other local authorities, etc.
While there can be traps and shortcomings in
various approaches, nearly all of them have the
potential for helping others and ourselves. Most
"failures" in anti-rape work relate in large part
to unrealistic expectations of caring people.
Anti-rape work is difficult and the rewards of it
are not always easily visible, particularly when
one is working quite hard. It can be very difficult
to avoid demoralization or burnout trying to "save
the world", while hurting oneself in various
ways.
III. CLARIFYING WHERE ONE IS
AT
The first step in doing anti-rape work involves
evaluating where one is at. If one has a group of
people, this involves a lot of discussion, with
Active listening being very important. Serious
individual thought is always important. If one is
alone, one must think of what support one may need
in such work. It is very easy to get well ahead of
one's current realities. One may have a lot of
energy and want to "do things" immediately.
Goals clarification is generally necessary. If
one's focus is limited to one rally, march or
workshop, one must focus on doing this action
effectively and efficiently. As one's goals become
larger and longer term, it becomes more and more
important to take the time to clarify feelings,
possibly at the expense of focussing the group
outward for some time. The personal and group
clarity and unity can be very useful later on, when
one faces difficult times. Accepting and
understanding the feelings of one's peers can be
critical in doing any future actions.
When we formed Men Stopping Rape (MSR), we had a
lot of fears of each other and of other men. We
feared facing violence from men when we might
picket a pornographic bookstore. We weren't
comfortable with how the rest of our group might
react to violence or our fears of violence. We had
concerns about each other that in retrospect seem
at times petty, but they weren't petty then. Those
of us who were relatively new to the Men's Movement
feared our own ineptness. We were also scared of
the more experienced men. Some of the more
experienced men were afraid that their issues would
be watered down. They feared a loss of focus
because of the inexperienced men. The straight men
feared the gay men and vice versa. We had a lot of
uncertainties and confusion within us and needed a
lot of time to clarify our feelings and our
issues.
Issues that may come up at this time
include:
1) homophobia/heterophobia,
2) whether the group should be men only, men and
women, or men only, but working with women's
groups,
3) what levels of time commitments one is willing
and able to make and what commitments one needs
from others to keep going,
4) what reasons the individuals present have for
joining the group and what they expect in the
short/long runs from the group
5) how decisions will be made by the group,
6) trust among group members and
7) education/class differences within the
group.
Initially there may be a question as to whether
the group wants to expand or build itself with what
membership it has.
There are no pat answers for what decisions
should be made at this time. It is important to
gradually build doable short-range goals and to
have longer range visions that feel good to most of
the group's members. It is very easy at this stage
to assume that others will be swept up with the
energy of the group or to feel that other men are
unreachable. One can be easily dismayed when other
men do not readily join the new group.
If you are sincerely committed, in touch with
your needs and how other men react to you, you are
likely to see at least tentative interest in some
men. Don't expect too much!
In MSR we have found that our energy and
interest levels are very different. It is easy for
some of the more active members to needlessly guilt
trip other group members. This can often lower,
rather than increase group energy.
Unless one wants to have a group of three or
four members one must learn to accept different
levels of commitment and different visions within
one's group. There can be a fine line between
commitment to the cause and watering things down to
the point that active members will lose interest in
the group.
It is also important at this stage to make sure
that there is some type of effective ending of
meetings. Restating decisions that were made,
individual responsibilities before the next meeting
and similar things can avoid confusion and
resentment later on.
It is good to share both positive and negative
feelings near the end of meetings. It is important
to learn to accept constructive criticisms as well
as to give positive strokes to others. The
importance of the latter can largely be seen when
the group faces some major turmoil in the future.
Without the internal cohesion and trust, it will be
likely to splinter or fold.
Finally, it is most important to acknowledge
personal and group successes. Part of this process
involves looking in new ways at what you are
accomplishing. In MSR in our early days we
celebrated how many men we had reached with our new
brochures. If we had instead asked how many rapes
we had concretely, for sure, prevented, we would
have never seen the influence that we have had.
IV. DOING SOMETHING AS A GROUP
- THE EARLY STAGES
What is done in the early stages of a group can
have a lot to do with how long the group lasts and
how effective it is. If the group is formed out of
some type of local crisis such a well-publicized
local rape, there will be strong pressures to do
something quickly. Similarly there may be a strong
motivation to do something as soon as possible
because rape is such an important immediate
issue.
In deciding what should be done one must listen
to one's heart and the needs of those in the group.
If immediate action is necessary, one should
generally do something expeditiously. I urge
caution in choosing what is done. When one is
emotionally charged, one can do incredibly
powerful, important things. One also can easily
lose perspective and misjudge the reactions of
others. One can see community concern and assume
that large numbers of people will show up for
something and then feel incredibly letdown when few
show up. When large numbers of people appear
interested, one can easily overestimate their level
of commitment to the cause.
Do not minimize the importance of actions one
may take at this stage of one's work. A
demonstration with 10 men present can be an
important success of the group, particularly if one
expects 3-8 men. It can be a major disappointment
if one expects 100 men to be there. Letters to the
editor, articles for local media etc. are all
"actions". If one naively assumes that that rape
will be stopped in a matter of days or months, one
is either working in the wrong area or will need to
reevaluate one's visions. If one's views change at
this point one may be beginning to learn what rape
is all about. This can be scary, but important.
Patience and group cohesiveness may strongly
correlate with the potential for a group's survival
in the long-run. If one's goal is to do things for
only a brief period of time, this can be much less
important.
Anti-rape work can be stressful and it is often
quite difficult. As men we may have few peers who
understand our commitment. Women may be either
extremely supportive or extremely suspicious of us.
Men may be very hard to talk with. If we spend our
time in our groups building up resentments of each
other and in other ways making ourselves more
vulnerable, it is unlikely we will stay
committed.
Being honest and straightforward with each other
is very important. It is easy to presume that our
allies share our feelings, without talking things
out. Particularly when individually or as a group
we feel ourselves under pressure, it is important
to take the time to listen to others' feelings. In
this process we must struggle with our own feelings
and a lot of our basic selves as men. Weekend
retreats where we evaluate our recent history and
look at the future can help, particularly if we
celebrate and play together. Seeing our
commonalities with other men is very important.
Building friendships with the men we work with
is very important from the beginning. At first it
is understandable that we are cautious. Having male
friends who spend time not talking about sports and
women in distant ways is often a new experience for
many of us.
V. GROUP LEADERSHIP
Men's anti-rape work can be lead in a variety of
ways. These can range from being dominated by one
individual either within or outside of the actual
work group to a totally decentralized, anarchistic
group. I would like to discuss some of the pro's
and con's of a variety of these structures.
a) Individual leadership from outside
the group brings potentially the most fragile of
groups. Examples of this situation could be
someone like the Dean of Students of a college
deciding that there should be a men's anti-rape
group among the male students of the college.
This could also be a member of the counseling
staff of a university deciding that there should
be some student lead workshops to reach the men
on campus.
For such a group to succeed it is important
that it be very focused, minimize potential
conflicts within the group, and have adequate
resources to strengthen it. An example of how
this might be possible would be for a college
leader to find at least one male ally who could
work within the group and perhaps plan a rape
awareness week in cooperation with existing
women's groups. If school resources could help
pay for publicity and the goals are not too
ambitious, a few people could develop an
effective program that could be expanded upon,
if it was successful.
Potential problems with this approach are
that an external person needs the support of
others, who may have conflicting goals. An
undergraduate student may not see things the
same way as the Dean of Students. There can be
an imbalance of power which can be disruptive,
as the person in control may be accountable for
expenses and have monetary control. At the same
time there is a need for volunteer labor which
pushes things in the other direction.
b) Internal leadership from a non-peer can be
very similar to external leadership. In such a
scenario an assistant dean of students might
plan for example to lecture new students at an
orientation session on acquaintance assault
issues. Such a setting may require minimal work
of volunteers, or it may rely solely on the
energy of the leadership.
The advantages and disadvantages of such an
approach are interrelated. A dean of students
may be able to exert power, which requires
students to at least feign listening. Having
such a captive audience can be very useful. At
the same time there can be a gulf between the
leadership and the audience which can be
difficult to bridge. Rebelling against authority
can easily be a common reaction, if such an
approach is not well done.
Another disadvantage of such an approach can
be that the resources of the leadership can
easily be strained. If a staff person in a Dean
of Students Office is in charge s/he may have
numerous other responsibilities, and not be able
to focus significant effort into such a project.
Particularly when such a program has evolved out
of some type of local crisis situation, adequate
resources can be available. This can be a very
big advantage, particularly if the funding is
not only short-term.
c) Dominant individual peer leadership
(frequently by a charismatic man) is common in
men's anti-rape work. This can be very effective
particularly if the leader is very good. It can
also lead to burnout, resentment and the
disintegration of the group if either the leader
leaves or alienates others in the group.
It is difficult to maintain an effective
group without a focal point for leadership. An
effective leader can listen to others easily,
take initiative for both internal meetings of
the group and for external outreach activities.
He can be a point of contact for potential new
members, the media and others. When the chips
are down, he can make sure that things get done
by the group.
The success or failure of such an approach
largely rests on how the leader either limits
activities to suit his needs, or interacts with
others in the group. Some individual men may be
able to do their own thing, with the minimal
support of others. In a sense there is no group.
More commonly the success or failure of the
group relates to the quality of cooperation
between the leader and others.
This type of group structure is based upon a
common reality that one man may have either a
lot more time and energy or greater skills at
facilitating a group. The problems with this
approach can develop when the leader seeks the
support of others, and feels that he is getting
less support than he needs. At this point he can
either restate his needs to other group members
and help revise expectations if they appear
unrealistic or go into "rescue mode".
It is very healthy to try to talk out one's
expectations and needs and be flexible about
what one can do as a group. This is quite
possible when one is able to revise plans when
necessary. Sometimes others can't commit
themselves to doing the necessary work. An
example of this might be a group deciding to do
a series of bi-weekly workshops beginning three
months later. Men will commit themselves to no
more than one co-facilitation every four weeks.
If one month later there are only three
volunteers and publicity is not out yet, a more
realistic plan may be desirable.
It is much more difficult when the leader
commits the group to leading a workshop three
days later, when he is already doing several
other workshops that week, and then can't find
others to do the workshop. It may be difficult
to cancel out. Besides the practical
implications of the leader making commitments,
there is also the problems of one's ego and
identity getting in the way. For the leader the
success of the group can reflect his identity
and success as a person.
To avoid burnout it is important for leaders
to minimize their rescue attempts, and accept
failures as group, rather than personal
failures. Starting to rescue the group is a
vicious circle. Initially one is helping out
others, but gradually they come to rely on the
rescues, and one's resentment of them grows.
Sooner or later explosions are likely. The
leader wants help. The other group members want
him to understand and accept their levels of
commitment to the group.
d) Leadership by a few men is a common way to
do anti-rape work. Such leaders can rely on each
other for feedback on their feelings and
activities. Group responsibilities can be
divided in a variety of ways. Responsibilities
can be divided by area, such as one man working
on media contacts, another on seeking new
members etc. Alternatively the work areas can be
handled by all the men. In such a setting there
may or may not be specific leaders in a
particular area.
Such leadership can have from two to about
ten active leaders. As the group gets larger, it
can often get confusing defining who a leader is
beyond a smaller number of people. There are
advantages of a small number of men leading.
They can get together more easily. Oftentimes
decision making can be easy. Dividing tasks can
be quite simple. Having a common focus on the
issues that are involved is easier with a
smaller number of men. It is easier to build
trust the smaller the group is.
A larger core group can do more work than a
smaller group. Similarly a larger group of
leaders can potentially involve new people in
the group more easily than a group which seems
like a small clique. While the decision making
and logistics can be more complex, it is easier
to avoid "blind spots", when one has more points
of view to listen to. With this approach it is
important to avoid over-dependency on one or a
few of the members.
Conflicting commitments or lack of interest
in the group by one or two can threaten the
survival of the group as a whole. I think that
this type of a group is most likely to survive
in the long run, as it can be most easily
focussed and the most steady of all the
leadership situations.
e) An egalitarian and/or anarchistic group
leadership can be effective in limited
situations. It may work well when the group's
activities are either very simple, or things are
really not done as a group, but as a series of
autonomous individual projects. Such a group can
be ineffective because deciding what to do can
overshadow doing anything. It is also common for
the energy levels of members to vary widely.
This can result in the group only doing the work
at the lowest level of individual
commitment.
VI. DECISION MAKING WITHIN
ONE'S GROUP
Majority rules and consensus models are the two
main ways of making decisions in a group. In some
situations a group can also have a more anarchistic
model. This says basically that things will get
done if people commit themselves to doing them and
come through with them.
Majority rule models are common within the
society as a whole in areas such as elections. They
are often more difficult to use with a relatively
small group. A majority of members of a group may
favor a particular approach, but the majority may
not have the commitment to do the action. Majority
rule can also lead to the splintering of the group
over issues that need not be threatening. It is
important to recognize that the majority of members
are not always right on an issue. The primary
advantage of majority rule models is that they can
take a lot less time to make decisions than with
other approaches.
Consensus decision making is more common within
men's anti-rape groups. It is important within such
a model to try to work out significant decisions
that reflect the concerns of all or nearly all of
the active, members present. Some consensus models
require that no one block consensus, while some
allow for the dissension of one or a small
percentage of the membership. It is often most
effective for such a system to allow for members to
strongly approve, mildly approve, feel neutral,
abstain, disapprove but not block consensus and
(potentially) block consensus with disapproval.
This variety of options helps avoid either/or
dichotomies within a group.
Consensus decisions are developed, reflecting
the concerns and issues of most, if not all of
those present. This can help members feel that they
are being heard. It also requires that people
involved develop their listening skills and avoid
speaking over minutia. As a group gets larger and
busier it becomes more and more important both that
alternate views are listened to, and that not
everyone necessarily speak about every issue. It
also can become important to delegate
responsibilities and not require large group
decisions on all issues.
One can then assume that smaller groups and
individuals can be entrusted with some decision
making. This can help avoid exhausting meetings
that accomplish little. The weakness of consensus
decision making is how much time it can take up.
Some consensus models require only consensus to be
reached on "major" issues (although defining them
is not always easy). Other models require two
members or a small percentage to block consensus,
although they necessitate hearing dissenters
out.
In the anarchistic form of decision making
everything is much simpler. If people say they will
do things and then do them, they happen. If there
is a street fair and one person is interested in
having a table at it, s/he may be able to do it if
one or two others will help. There may not need to
be a group decision at all. This type of approach
can avoid meaningless discussions which determine
something, only to find that no one will do the
work.
When this form is used extensively, there can be
a feeling that there is no real group. Potential
new members may be turned off by the lack of clear
structure and not see comfortable ways to integrate
themselves into the group. Similarly, "either or"
situations may come up, where group money is either
committed or not committed to a project. This model
can't deal with such situations effectively.
VII. HOMOPHOBIA AND INTERNAL
COMPETITION
Homophobia is "the fear of the gay/lesbian in
others and ourselves". Whether we are straight,
bi-sexual or gay, we have nearly all learned to
fear other men. We have learned that if we expose
any of our inner selves, other man will take
advantage of our weaknesses to trounce on us. We
have learned to talk with other men about sports
and women in a non-feeling way. We confide in, seek
support from and are otherwise emotionally
dependent on women for much in our lives,
regardless of our sexual orientation. Talking with
men about rape and related issues can be very
threatening, when one has rarely confided in
another man.
Homophobia can be very important also because it
strongly fuels male violence. We must be
competitive with other men and never let them get
too close to our real selves, for fear that they
will gain an advantage over us. From an early age
we learn to fight with other boys and as we grow
older the levels of violence often escalate. Men
kill and maim other men in frightening numbers. We
learn to control "our" women through domestic
violence, rape and in other ways.
Our fears of the feminine sides of ourselves
have a lot to do with perpetuating our violence. As
upper-middle class men we can often feel that we
are immune from the problems of those "macho blue
collar men". We fail to recognize how we listen to
each other speak, looking for an opening to get our
two cents in, putting down the other man. We each
have our own barriers, where we dare not venture
beyond. We may think that a "fem" earring is okay,
but that pink draw-string pants are too feminine
for us. Questioning simple things like hand lotion
to make our hands softer can lead us to basic
questioning of what our male identity is.
It is seemingly so simple to see how we have
grown up as men understanding our maleness as being
NOT feminine. If women are nurturers, being male
means to not be nurturant. Being male connotes less
of being "strong" than being "not weak like a
woman". We each have different parts of ourselves
that need reevaluating and increased sensitivity.
We also face the fears of being too close to other
men (as well as women) and "losing".
In Men Stopping Rape we often encounter men new
to our group wanting "to focus on the issue".
Frequently what this means is that they want to get
away from the affection we show for each other.
They want concrete actions that stop rape. They
respect us, but fear us also. In some cases they
presume that we are gay, because in their
experience straight men don't touch other men in
non-violent ways. In other cases our changes in our
own lives are threatening to them.
It is important that we listen to men who are
uncomfortable with us and accept them, without
bending to their fears and being what we are not.
We have to continue our struggles to build a new
positive image of masculinity as we do our work.
Learning that it will be an often unclear struggle
for many years is difficult for us to accept,
because as men we expect concise, clear answers
quickly.
We are struggling to be supportive of each other
as men in ways that are both satisfying and
difficult for most of us. Unlearning that touch
must be either violent or sexual is difficult when
we have spent 20-80 years learning that. Feeling
safe enough to talk of about lot of personal issues
is scary. We don't have a lot of good role models.
Most of our fathers weren't sensitive, caring,
feeling men, although many of them did done the
best they could. We may not always agree on what is
"good" or constructive as we struggle to develop a
new sense of what masculinity is. We need to learn
to listen, feel and accept our differences.
Our homophobia fuels male violence in a variety
of ways. Not being able to express our feelings
gets in the way. We seek ways we can understand of
dealing with the emotions that are raised within
us. We fear that we aren't good enough to be a
"real" man. We have to show other men that we are
"tougher" than we know we are. We seek scapegoats
such as other men, women or children. We defend
"our honor" through fighting other men either
literally or figuratively. I can remember
ridiculing boys that were in my view potentially
worse off than I was, to make myself appear better
than they were. When I was harassed as a 15 year
old by a classmate, I saw only one way of
responding to him. I offered to fight him.
Fortunately he backed off, apparently fearing I
would hurt him. We can't separate necessary
competition (if there is such a thing) from an
unhealthy view of ourselves and others. We can
never be good, because being good means being on
top, and we are never on top.
We poo poo the "silly" gabbiness of women with
other women. We resent their intimacy with each
other, even though we realize that this intimacy is
generally not sexual. We may explode when women
will not take our anger although we do not feel
safe exploding at our boss or another (frequently)
man in our life. We do not have others to talk
things out with.
We have very limited skills at talking out many
of our feelings. We may not physically attack a
woman in such a situation, but we may verbally
abuse her. We are reasonably close to being
physically violent. We wouldn't say that any man,
except perhaps a father or brother, had a definite
responsibility to listen to us with no if's, and's
or but's, but a woman is expected to be available
for us now!
In a world where we fear other men, women are
often our saviors. Our mothers accepted us, with
all our weaknesses as boys. Our lovers, sisters,
mothers and other significant women in our lives
are expected to cater to our needs. Most of us have
not learned how to deal with the intensity of our
feelings effectively. Talking things out, when we
can do it at all, frequently means spilling our
guts to a woman. She is expected to be receptive to
our needs, and not to expect reciprocity, unless it
is in a materialistic manner ("I bought you this
____ because you helped me so much with ____").
Part of me expects my wife to deflect the anger I
feel towards men I work with, who I don't feel I
can talk safely with.
For many of us, when a woman doesn't respond as
we want her to at any moment, some form of violence
is "asked for". We don't identify this violence
with football, where a defensive back must hurt the
wide receiver to get some respect. We also don't
identify it with our fears of losing "our women" to
other men, who may be better competition.
As men we must bear our burdens inside, and
women must help us cope with the difficulties in
our world. We resent women who seem to be able to
confide in each other so well. We also fear the
intimacy with other men, because they can use
whatever we tell them against us. There are no
instant answers to our homophobia. We must explore
it and seek to comes to grip with it in healthy,
constructive ways. We must realize that it was not
built within us in a day. It will take a lot of
concentrated focus to deal with it effectively.
VIII. REACHING MEN
Getting some of our ideas across to other men is
a difficult and very important part of our
anti-rape work. It is important to realize what may
draw men to a workshop or other gathering and what
will often fail.
A significant number of men do not see rape as a
men's issue. For them rape is something done by
vicious, crazy men. Innocent women are grabbed on
the street and dragged into the bushes, or
something similar. From such a scenario, why would
a man want to come to a discussion on men and rape?
A logical reason would be because he is one of
those weirdo male rapists. A less likely, but
possible reason, would be because he is somehow a
victim. Perhaps his sister was attacked on the
street.
A far more common male reaction to rape is
apathy. It isn't necessarily that men don't "care"
about rape, but there are other issues that are
more important to them. For some it may be one's
job or studying. For some it may be doing "real"
political work concerning "relevant" issues such as
Central America. For some "rape" may be scary. It
involves sex and/or violence as an issue. We aren't
supposed to talk about "illicit" sex!
It is very important to find ways to bring the
rape issue to men, rather than expecting men to
come to you. Holding a forum in a public library
might often draw few if any men. Men at a sporting
event often will not listen to other issues such as
rape. They want to focus on their socializing and
the sport.
Men are interested in rape and related issues.
Reaching them takes a lot of work. It is important
to understand one's local community. In a
fraternity house at a university the student
fraternity leader can be a tremendous ally or no
help whatsoever. If he asks his fellow students to
come, one can often get 20 or more men together
relatively easily. If he thinks you are accusing
his fraternity of being rapists, you aren't likely
to get anywhere.
Focusing on dating issues is often necessary on
college campuses. Students are concerned about
misunderstandings and miscommunication and will
often be happy to talk, if the discussion focuses
on their needs and interests. It can be relatively
easy to bring rape issues into such a discussion in
ways that would be difficult if the workshop title
was "acquaintance rape".
In Madison we have a minimum of 5-10,000 people
each Saturday morning in the warmer half of the
year at a local farmer's market. This has proven to
be an ideal place for us to meet a lot of men to
talk about our issues and share our leaflets. Men
stop to talk. Sometimes they talk about how our
message didn't sink in at first, but now it makes a
lot of sense. In such an environment people are not
generally in a hurry. They may be open to talking
as they go by a very visible booth walking around
our square.
Other ways of reaching men can be in school
settings within classes, where one can easily have
a captive audience. Within a college community this
can include a variety of disciplines such as
sociology, various education areas, health areas
etc. Within high schools and middle schools health
classes, special forums and even subjects like
English classes (there are fiction books for
children discussing rape).
In some communities it may be useful to connect
with men through existing organizations that focus
on child abuse, domestic violence and other related
issues. Supportive church members can get one
invited into churches to lecture or lead
discussions. It is also possible to do outreach
with local law enforcement officials. Satirical
street theater may be useful in some
communities.
IX. MEN'S REACTIONS TO
ANTI-RAPE WORK AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM
Men commonly react to anti-rape work with either
a "benevolent apathy" or varying levels of
defensiveness. It is important to in part accept
other men the way they are, while getting one's
message across as best one can. It is necessary to
often tell men that we are not accusing them of
being rapists. We are trying to discuss issues that
are important to us with them. We must relate our
issues to their lives, or we will never get
anywhere.
One way of doing this is focusing on dating
situations that may be important to non-married,
straight men. Communicating about dating and sex is
often an important issue for men. Even when these
issues aren't directly relevant (e.g. with men who
have been married and monogamous for many years),
one can relate rape to male/female and male/male
friendships. One can discuss how as men we often
depend upon women for all of our emotional support.
Out of this men can help begin exploring how they
expect women to do many things for them that they
would never expect from a man. Anger towards women
can be discussed out of this.
It can be good to discuss the fact that rape is
an issue for both straight and gay men as potential
perpetrators and victims. It is important that all
men realize that they can be victims of rape.
Discussing how many men have been sexually abused
as children with figures like one in eight can
shock some men, while making victims realize that
they are not alone. It is likely that some men in a
workshop setting may be able to relate directly to
some of the discussion from their own personal
experiences. It is essential to stress how
difficult it is for male victims to seek help, due
to their shame and fears.
In helping men see the relevance of rape to
their lives it is important to get through the
myths of the stranger coming out of the bushes to
attack women. This does happen, but it is typical
of perhaps 10-20% of all rapes. Men are shocked by
the percentage of acquaintance assaults. Out of
this one can discuss what rape is, and how men and
women are socialized differently.
Many men get hung up on the idea that women are
supposed to say no to sexual invitations of men and
that men are always supposed to be the initiators
of sexual activity. Focussing on "no" meaning no is
important in this context. Getting men to see the
need for checking out their feelings with potential
sexual partners is a radical step in some ways.
For many men discussing options they (and their
potential partners) may have, the feelings
involved, etc. may be a welcome first discussion
for them. Out of such a discussion men can begin to
see how their uneasiness in dealing with women in a
variety of social setting can relate directly to
women's fears of sexual assault or harassment. When
men can see this, it can bring up a lot of issues
in their lives. Discussions can then productively
go a long way.
Dealing with men's harassment can be harrowing
at first in one's work. Hearing men say that they
like to or want to rape women is not pleasant. It
is important to keep one's cool, but to also not
stifle one's feelings in such situations. Men may
in some cases make more reasonable statements in
such a situation if you handle it well, or they may
just disappear.
It can be useful to reflect on these issues
beforehand. One can examine where men may be coming
from, when they make rape jokes or other crude
putdowns. For some men working against rape
threatens them. We might help stop some of their
personal power, which they wield over women.
Although they may either greatly over- or
under-estimate our strength or influence, this can
be useful both for these men and for us.
More commonly men make rape jokes out of a mild
defensiveness, often to appear cool to their peers.
Getting extremely irate and defensive in such a
setting is counterproductive. It may confuse the
man who has made what he thinks is a very mild,
small statement, which he may soon forget.
Another common experience we have found in MSR
is encountering various "kooks", for the lack of a
better word. Commonly they will try to join our
group with incredible enthusiasm. They often have
all the answers and a lot of energy. It is easy to
be bowled over by their enthusiasm, particularly if
the group energy is not high at the time.
In MSR we have found that such men rarely will
stay around more than one or two meetings. If there
is good internal cohesion in the group, it is
relatively easy to confront some of what they say,
but largely to let them run their course and
disappear. This will of course be harder with a new
group or a group that is struggling. It is
important to be clear to such men that they have no
right to speak for the group in public. They may
well do so in the short-run no matter what you say
to them.
It is important to clarify one's feelings and
then share these feelings with other group members
when such situations arise. Without such talk,
other group members may each feel that they are the
only one who is bothered by what a man is saying.
Resentment towards others can easily build up with
this silence.
Picking out "kooks" from potentially active
members of one's group can be done with a
combination of looking at their listening skills
and their body language. New men may talk and not
listen. This may mean that they need to be heard
and that they need help of some kind. It is
important to realize that they may be a rape/incest
victim themselves. They may not say this for a long
time. The group may need to decide to listen
individually or collectively to men that want to
talk a lot. Some of them may become useful members
of the group or may simply be helped by having a
man listen to their feelings. It is important to
not let them disrupt the group.
Contrastingly, men who seem to listen well are
generally potentially good members. If such men
don't say much, it may be because they don't feel
safe yet with what is for them a new group. In such
a situation it is good to look for their body
language. If they seem to be intently listening and
responding non-verbally, that is a good sign. If
they seem very defensive, it is good to give them
space and not confront them in ways that may
needlessly scare them off.
X. DEALING WITH MEN'S ANGER
TOWARDS WOMEN
Men often have a lot of anger towards women.
When this anger is very intense within men, they
will often fail to see rape as a serious issue.
They may support a lot of rape-affirming behaviors.
In a short workshop session with others present it
can be very difficult to deal with this anger.
There are no magical solutions!
Men's anger towards women frequently relates to
their past dating experiences. They often feel that
they have been used by women. They may have spent
significant money on presents for a woman, and then
she initiated a breakup in their relationship. They
may have anger at women who have rejected their
requests for dates. The anger may be more
generalized in feeling that women can attract men
easily. Women seemingly give them mixed messages.
Women have strong friendships with each other,
while men do not.
The common part of much of men's anger towards
women is that they generally have not talked
through their feelings in more than a superficial
way and they have not focussed on what their
feelings are at all. "She ______ me over" or
similar anger is often the depth of the feeling
that the man has experienced.
It can be useful to let men vent some of their
anger, while not allowing that to dominate a
discussion. It is good to explore what the woman
may have been feeling, particularly in a workshop
where women are present. It is good to acknowledge
that men's anger and feelings are real and
valid.
At the same time it is important to not get into
a tit-for-tat equation of women's bad deeds towards
men being equal to rape. It is necessary to focus
on the intensity of rape on a victim's life,
whether the victim is female or male. A man who has
been burned in a relationship, may have trouble
getting involved in future relationships. This is
different than a person who has been assaulted by
an acquaintance. They may be scared to date at all
or to be outside in the dark etc.
In focusing on these issues it is important to
try to get men to focus on what it would be like to
be raped. It is necessary to go beyond the physical
pain of the experience. Talk about how this could
affect one's life for months and years after the
incident. It is most effective to get men to bring
up the feelings, rather than lecturing the group
about this.
In some cases the writings of victims may be
effective. It may be useful to talk about the fact
that no one deserves to be victimized. Perpetrators
are responsible for what they do. Examples
unrelated to rape may be useful. A simple example
might be if one gets upset at one's boss and drives
home recklessly in one's car and crashes into
another car, the other driver doesn't deserve
anything.
Another part to this is acknowledging that one's
dates or former friends may also be unclear about
similar issues. They may change their minds about
things. We often presume in our relationships that
the other person should be consistent and clear to
us, when we are often not similarly consistent
ourselves. It may be unfair that one's girlfriend
wanted the relationship to grow and then changed
her mind and backed away from the relationship.
One can acknowledge one's anger towards her,
one's sadness at the loss of the relationship etc.
There is a difference between this and saying that
the girlfriend deserves to be raped or otherwise
attacked, or have a window broken in her apartment
or on her car.
It can be particularly useful to focus on how we
as men direct our anger. "She made me so mad I
could kill her." "I should have slapped her face."
Discussing how we casually talk of violence as
being deserved can easily relate in discussions
about our anger towards women and how it relates to
rape. It can be particularly vivid to focus on
similarly whether women are expected to be violent
with men. We can all come up examples of the woman
who shot the man to death who "did her wrong". It
is much harder to come up with the abusive wife,
who beats or rapes her husband or other men
(although we should acknowledge that violence is
wrong, whether the perpetrator is female or
male).
Avoiding the "equal" trap ("men are also abused
by women physically") is also important. We should
acknowledge that it certainly happens the other way
around. It can help to discuss the power imbalances
that make it much more likely to happen with male
perpetrators. It may also be necessary to point out
in certain situations how participants keep trying
to change the subject away from talking about us as
men.
XI. WORKING WITH WOMEN
Working with women is very important in
anti-rape work. Women appear to be a significant
majority of the rape victims. Women have written
most of the important writings on rape. They have
formed most of the groups focusing on rape as an
issue. Women have brought about most of the
important new insights we have about rape. Most
other feminist visions of our world have come from
women. Women also can often have a lot of anger
towards men and a lot of suspicions about men doing
anti-rape work.
Men can very easily face significant mistrust
from women when beginning anti-rape work. Women
often want to believe that men are working
supportively. Women often feel that rape is an
important issue they face intensely every day. When
they are committed to anti-rape work such as
working in a rape crisis center they may see the
issue even more intensely. They often fear that we
"new feminist men" are talking a sweet line just to
get in bed with them.
Men can easily view rape seriously in the
short-run. A friend may have been raped. You may
hear of a vicious assault in your local newspaper.
We may be pushed towards the issue emotionally. Our
commitment often remains intellectual, rather than
involving our feelings. The intensity of our
feelings can easily slip away, unless we are a rape
victim or very, very close to a rape victim.
One's emotional commitment to the issue may
lessen. The difficulty of facing what to do as a
man may sink in. Often men's commitment to
anti-rape work slips away. This can anger women
(and some men) who feel that rape should be seen
primarily as a men's issue. Seeing well-intentioned
men do little or nothing after being supposedly
committed to anti-rape work makes one less likely
to take seriously other men who say they are going
to do anti-rape work.
Most women are very happy to see men doing
meaningful anti-rape work. It is easy when this
happens to take the praise one can get from women
seriously, and begin seeking more praise from women
as time goes on. There is nothing intrinsically
wrong with getting strokes from women. The problem
comes when one gets few strokes from men. One may
begin doing things to get strokes from the women,
or to get in bed with the women, rather than
because one believes in what one is doing.
Forming an anti-rape group with women can easily
appear as competition for existing women's
anti-rape groups. Often rape crisis centers and
other women's groups do not include male members.
When a group has been doing excellent work for some
time and suddenly some men are "taking away" either
potential or actual volunteers from the original
group, there can be anger and pain. Similarly some
men are not used to functioning in organizations
dominated by women. It can be difficult for us to
begin to work in an existing women's organization,
where we are not only the new gofer, but also a
man.
This does not mean that men's anti-rape work
should not be done with women. What it means is
that one should communicate with existing groups,
minimize competition with them, and seek the best
way of doing one's work locally. Options that can
exist include: working as a part of or auxiliary to
an existing group, forming a men's only group that
works in cooperation with one or more existing
groups or forming a group that includes women in
it. Some men work individually with rape crisis
centers, working with men and/or doing public
speaking on the issue. In Eugene, local men meet
regularly with women in their group because of the
importance such communication. But they jointly
decided not to supplant women co-presenters from
the Rape Crisis Network with women from Men Against
Rape.
In Madison we formed a men's only group and we
have found that the best way for us. We did it this
way for a variety of related reasons. We felt that
forming a group with women would inevitably be
perceived (or actually) compete with our local Rape
Crisis Center and other women's groups. Doing this
would negate the valuable work that they had done
for years. They had helped us build up our
sensitivity to the issues. We also felt a need to
work out our issues among other men, and then talk
with women when we felt a little clearer on our
issues.
Early on in our existence, we weren't totally
clear about whether we wanted to focus our
workshops on men only or men with women present. We
invited two women from the local Rape Crisis Center
to come to one of our regular meetings. They showed
us a film. We then accepted their offer of taking
time to discuss it among ourselves. We invited them
back in.
One of them then asked a very general question
about our reaction to the film. We were normally
very talkative, with members having trouble getting
a word in. This time we spoke infrequently and with
very few words. Our resentment of each other grew,
as our supposed unity crumbled. The women were
supportive. We were the ones with the trouble. We
decided that if we couldn't handle two supportive
women present, men who might not know each other or
us might have a lot of difficulty with women
present. In recent years we have done more and more
work with mixed groups.
Being male only has allowed us to work with a
wide variety of local women's groups when we are
doing workshops that are for both men and women. We
work with men's only workshops. It has helped us
focus on learning to work cooperatively with men.
Without being male separatist, we no longer need
the mediation of women.
It is important to keep the communication open
with other groups, particularly with women's
groups. It is easy to have misunderstandings and
other disagreements that can be blown out of
proportion. Avoiding competition with any other
groups is important. There is so much work that can
be done, and nowhere near enough people to do all
the work.
Several years ago we scheduled a "Men Stopping
Rape Week" the same week as Women's History Week.
Both events were on the University of Wisconsin
campus. We had talked briefly with one woman
connected with Women's History Week, who thought
that our events would complement their events,
rather than compete with them. We had a very
difficult time working out compromises with other
leaders of Women's History Week. We had not
clarified the issue with the right people and felt
a lot of anger directed at us. When communication
and connectedness are very good, misunderstandings
will be unlikely. When there is any
paranoia, even if it is not initially directed
at you, watch out! Things can explode easily as
they did in Madison at us.
XII. BURNOUT
Burnout is a common result of activism in many
areas. It can come either personally in an active
member of a group or within the group as a whole.
Within men's anti-rape work it can be a particular
problem for various reasons. Failing to deal with
it productively will result in either the loss of
otherwise effective members of a group or the end
of the group itself.
Preventing burnout in men's anti-rape work
requires a mindset where one recognizes that one is
working on a cause for the long-run and that no
matter what one does, there is going to be much
more work for a long, long time. It is much easier
to intellectualize this concept that to accept it
at an emotional level.
It is necessary to focus on one's personal needs
as a man and keep good communication open within
the group. It is very easy to get very goal
oriented. One can forget about one's needs as a
normal human being. It can help to take time to be
frivolous and not serious with one's allies. It can
be difficult but necessary to let go occasionally
from one's serious work within the group. In the
long run one can be much more effective when one is
in touch with one's feelings and knows one's allies
as more than just partners in important work.
One may have significant others, children,
outside jobs, interests in a variety of other
areas, etc. It is important not to neglect these
important parts of one's life. Balancing these
commitments is often not easy to do. Your group may
become very task oriented and people may start to
feel stressed out. It may be good then to take a
weekend day to spend time together with others in
your group. You may want to be hiking, in a hot
tub, canoeing, at the beach, at a museum or doing
many other things.
It is important to keep the communication open
within one's group, particularly when one feels
stressed out or feels that others are burning
themselves out. It is good to check out others'
feelings, rather than presuming that what one
senses is correct. Some groups do co-counseling
within their group to deal with their issues.
Others may need to have regular non-business
meetings which focus on internal consciousness
raising and other personal issues.
It is especially important to focus on burnout
issues when an individual or small group is doing a
large percentage of the group's work. If they burn
out, there can be a tremendous void that is
difficult to bridge. It is important to recognize
one's individual and collective limits at all
times. When one starts out, few people may show
interest in a group. As the work develops, the
number of inquiries can grow tremendously. It is
easy to feel that one must be everywhere one is
requested to be. This may not always be possible.
It is easy for individuals to commit a group to
things and then feel that they personally must be
there, when others are unable or unwilling to
go.
To some degree these problems can be dealt with
by trying to control the environment one works in.
If one is doing college dormitory workshops, one
may need to try to schedule things well in advance.
Numerous letters and phone calls to dorm leaders
can help get workshops scheduled fairly evenly.
Simply scheduling workshops when individuals call
you up can result in over- and under-loading one's
work. One needs to have enough planning time and
interested people to do the planning to be
effective. In the end one must rely on one's past
experiences and learn from one's mistakes to
prevent burnout.
XIII. THE MEDIA
The various media can appear both strongly
positive and negative towards men's anti-rape work
and frequently they are both. Initial reactions
locally can be either apathetic, positive or
negative.
Apathy is a common reaction unless one's work is
seen as newsworthy. To be newsworthy one must be
visible and in many cases controversial. When one
starts out it is often a good idea not to focus
much energy on the media. Getting a brief article
in a campus newspaper or something similar may not
be difficult to do. It may help get others
interested in one's group. It is important to
recognize that when one doesn't have printed
materials, a track record of actions in public, and
in some cases a "sponsor", one is often deemed
unimportant for the media. It is more important
early on to be able to generate one's own publicity
through announcements, posters, word of mouth etc,
rather than relying on the media. One can easily
expect publicity, and it may never appear, even if
promised.
When there is positive media coverage it often
comes from the interest of a sympathetic
(generally) female reporter. Men focusing on rape
is a novel and new idea that can be easily explored
by someone who is interested in the topic. It is
good to develop a good working relationship with
media people who show interest in our work. They
can often be helpful in advising us how to get
further in's into the media. It is important to
recognize that there can be limitations on these
people, such as editors, station or department
managers, etc., who can make things difficult.
When MSR was quite new, a local newspaper
reporter interviewed several of us for an article
on our group. She called us back the next day and
told us that her editor had made her re-write the
article, because it made us look "too good". She
had to write a "balanced" article, that would try
to point out good and bad things about us. The
article ended up being relatively worthless,
although it gave us publicity at a time, when we
had little publicity.
A bad side of media coverage can be the desire
of media people to dig in and make one look foolish
and bad. When Men Stopping Rape first put out our
pamphlets, the media had a heyday with our
suggestion that "men consider the feelings that we
would have if we wore a dress and other female
identified clothing in public". We were trying to
get at the fear that we would have of being
physically assaulted and ridiculed by men we did
not know in downtown Madison. There are not a lot
of ways that most men can imagine the fears of
sexual assault and harassment that many women
experience constantly. Very quickly we were
"suggesting" that men be transvestites, according
to various local media. We didn't back down on what
we were saying, although in later brochures the
wording was modified somewhat.
If one is going to be severely hurt by negative
media coverage, I would suggest minimizing one's
efforts with the media. One's words can easily get
twisted and/or misquoted and if one is already
vulnerable, this can make a new group feel very,
very bad. If one is confident of that one is
talking about, this can work to one's favor. Our
early negative publicity gave us a lot of
visibility, when we were having trouble getting
public exposure. It also helped us in the long-run
as various media and non-media people saw how
serious we really are. The fact that we didn't
disappear like many others do after a little
initial hype gave us a lot of respect in the
community.
It is important in any group to clarify who
should speak for the group with the media.
Initially it is often useful for one or two men to
be spokespeople. It may continue to be useful to
work that way. In Men Stopping Rape we have found
that generally new members don't want to be
extensively quoted in the media. We trust what
others in our group will say, so we don't need to
have a single spokesperson.
Having a particular spokesperson or a
spokesperson committee within one's group can be
useful in helping the group focus on media
coverage. As one's media exposure becomes more
important, this becomes a better and better idea.
Whether this is a good idea may also depend upon
the dynamics of the group, the local media
situation and other related variables.
In focusing on the media it is important to see
how one's coverage in the media will relate to the
level of media that one deals with. A neighborhood
or campus newspaper is not likely to cut down a
story by 75% or ax it like a television network
may. Chuck Schobert of MSR spoke at Syracuse
University and was filmed for over six hours by one
of the three major networks. He was interviewed
extensively by a well-known media person. All this
was for a 15 minute segment on prime time national
television. Despite the efforts of the interviewer,
the editor axed all of Chuck's words. He believes
that his message was too radical and unacceptable
for one male editor.
Similarly, on several occasions major network
crews were going to film Men Stopping Rape for
segments on television only to have budgetary or
other constraints prevent anything from happening.
This is normal television protocol, although at
first it can be very unnerving.
Avoiding investing too much energy in the media
will minimize feeling that you have been badly
used. We can not control what they will print or
show on television. Similarly talk shows can be
ridiculous if the host will not let one say what
one wants. Frequent interruptions or callers asking
questions that repeatedly keep one off of one's
topic can be very annoying. Over time one learns
what works best and how not to be run over by
others in the quest for coverage.
Media allies can also help one hone one's skills
in public, giving good advice that can help with
other public speaking. It is important to be able
to speak concisely and to speak clearly. When one
hears one's 45 second sentence cut in half over the
air, one realizes that a 20 second sentence would
have been much better. Learning to be quotable
without losing one's message is a skill that is
very useful in a lot of contexts.
XIV. COMMUNICATION OUTSIDE
ONE'S GROUP
Communication with others is an area that we
learned to do gradually, with a lot of rocky
efforts. We would frequently try to communicate
directly and "logically", only to find that our
methods just didn't work. In general we learned to
study who we were trying to reach and the best ways
to reach them, before we tried anything
significant. A good example of our early problems
was when we talked with the head of a university
dormitory. We alienated various heads of the
dormitory bureaucracy above the level of the
dormitory leader without knowing it.
It can often be very important to work
effectively within and outside large systems. That
can seem very illogical at first. MSR initially
approached dormitory leaders about doing workshops
within their units. We didn't realize that we were
stepping into the midst of jurisdictional
complications. Higher ups at first seemed to
sabotage our work. It often is confusing to figure
out who one should approach. Paradoxically it can
be important to deal with higher ups in
organizations at an early stage of a group's
existence. They then may have little interest in
you, because you are a new, untested group.
It helps to brainstorm regularly for allies and
various other in's to help deal with large
organizations. The more potentially complex an
organization is, the more important this becomes.
If no one in your group knows a newspaper reporter,
dorm leader or whomever, try for friends of
friends. It is very important at an early stage of
development to get at least the tacit support of
the highest level of relevant leadership in a
bureaucracy. It is often a good idea to sound out
several people within such a system about how to do
this. When such people are not allies of each other
one can get varied perspectives which can be
useful. In some situations it is necessary to use
one's potential allies to reach the higher ups. In
other situations it is better to deal with them
yourself.
It is important not to underestimate the
"fiefdoms" that can exist. In dealing with a public
school system one may potentially need to deal with
people such as the:
1) Superintendent,
2) Curriculum Coordinator,
3) Social Work Head,
4) Health Program Coordinator,
5) Principal,
6) Department Head and of course
7) Teacher.
Avoiding contact with the Social Work head may
result in her/him believing that you are infringing
on her/his area. This may result in complaints to
higher ups which may end any hopes you may have of
getting in to the schools.
It is also important to work at the micro level
to get your program going effectively. One needs
individual teachers, guidance counselors etc. who
will help deal with the bureaucracy and help you
get into their classes. In situations such as a
college dormitory, it is crucial to have the dorm
floor leaders on one's side. Inviting men to come
to an all dormitory meeting can be ineffective,
unless there will be some peer influence that will
get men there. In Madison we initially leafleted
over 1500 men's mailboxes, and drew an audience of
one man who came 20 minutes late. On individual
dormitory floors one can often draw 20-35% or more
of the men if their floor leader is respected by
the residents, and the men feel welcome.
When you have in's use them, but don't abuse
them. Ask for their advice. Find out how they can
help you and how they can't help you. Nurture your
working relationships so that helpful people will
continue to be helpful. It is important to build up
allies in ways that you don't get allied with them
against others. Within some women's communities
there can be antagonisms that may be between
radical/liberal women, townies/university, lesbian/
straight, anti-pornography/1st Amendment
Libertarians, etc. It is good to use one's ties
productively, while maintaining ties with
others.
We have frequently found that a phone call or
other direct contact with a person is most likely
to bring about future communication with them. We
have found that mention in the major student
newspaper at the University of Wisconsin tends to
reach students. In Madison posters seem more
effective for ideas, rather than for getting people
to workshops. In one's local community, what is
effective may be different.
Experimentation and group evaluations of
experiences may be necessary. One should try to
give men options for connecting with one's group.
Regular events like monthly film nights can give
men a chance to attend at least semi-regularly. In
some cases it may be necessary for events to be
scheduled at various times to avoid regular
scheduling conflicts with classes, work etc.
It may also be necessary for men to see one's
group a number of times before they will initiate
contact. Thus an afternoon of having a table with a
big sign may not draw men. It together with
leafleting, mention in a newspaper etc. may lead to
contact and possible involvement of a valuable new
member of a group.
XV. FUNDRAISING
Fundraising can be more important to some groups
than others. Seattle Men Against Rape functioned
for a long time as a group that was basically
unfunded. Their members must have helped fund the
group. There are a lot of things that can be done
for free, if one is willing to work without pay. It
is difficult to raise significant amounts of money,
until one has a good track record. Foundations
frequently want one to have a good record, without
having received major funding from elsewhere. Only
then will they fund a new group. This can sometimes
be paradoxical.
Many sources of grants will require 501(c)(3)
status from I.R.S. indicating that one is a
nationally recognized not-for-profit corporation,
that can receive tax-deductible gifts. MSR got this
after much work. It has been useful for us. Getting
state status as a not-for-profit corporation is of
course simpler.
Raising smaller amounts of money can rely a lot
on the ingenuity of the group and local conditions.
MSR got our first funding through the City
(Madison)/County Committee on Sexual Assault. They
funded the printing of our second batch of
brochures. As we began to get limited funding from
more sources, it became a little easier, although
it still isn't easy.
Within a University one can seek help from the
Student Government, Dean of Students Office etc.
One can sell baked goods, buttons, t-shirts etc.
One can get small amounts of money from sympathetic
local businesses crediting them visibly on whatever
one is raising money for). One can do work for
special events or businesses in return for a
donation. Local and national churches and fraternal
groups (particularly when one is or knows a member)
can help out. Direct mailings may become more
useful as a group becomes more visible to the
public. Door to door soliciting appears to be very
difficult in our experience. If solicitors are
paid, it will increase the necessary paperwork with
State and Federal authorities significantly, if one
is properly incorporated as a group.
In looking at fundraising it is important to
evaluate what one's goals are. What does one really
needs to keep going? It is much different if one is
willing and wants to donate money regularly to the
cause than if one needs the income from anti-rape
work to pay one's rent. If one is very dependent on
one source of income, the group can collapse if
this funding is cut.
Such dependency can influence the direction of
the group in negative ways. If one wishes to have
an office and a telephone, one may need regular
income. In other instances one may wish to only
raise money for particular needs as they come up.
Money can be a savior or a noose around one's neck.
MSR has been fortunate to have significant funding
through University Student sources. This has
allowed us to print many brochures, posters etc.
for distribution in the University Community.
It is also important to avoid the appearance of
competing with some other groups for funding.
Women's groups can often be particularly sensitive
in this area. It is good to talk with potential
competitors, and avoid needless acrimony.
It helps when evaluating funding needs to do
some mid- to long-range planning of needs. This can
help you avoid massive roller coaster rides Talking
with other successful raisers of money may teach
you some of the do's and don'ts. Thus one may avoid
spending a lot of time on a lengthy grant proposal,
when one has little chance of getting any
money.
Flexibility and realistic planning can help a
lot. Avoid spending too much of one's own money in
the effort so that one doesn't feel used. Good
luck!
XVI. HOW POLITICAL SHOULD
ONE'S GROUP BE?
When one's group is completely within a
university or other organization, one may need to
stay out of many political arenas. When one has
more autonomy, one has more choices about one's
political focus. Often there is a need to play some
sort of middle ground, between pretending that one
is a benevolent society which is apolitical and
being a very radical, lobbying organization. If one
gets 501(c)(3) status with IRS, one clearly has
legal limits of what can not be done in political
lobbying areas etc. This would necessitate not
being involved in direct political campaigns as an
organization. This is generally not much of an
issue.
As one gets increasingly involved in anti-rape
work, one may see connections to others' work to
end violence. This can involve causes like domestic
violence, but it can also relate to causes like
nuclear war and United States foreign policy in
various parts of the world. In MSR we have found it
useful to ally ourselves with various peace causes
in loose alliances such as being a part of the
Madison Peace and Justice Network. Networking with
other causes can be very useful. It can be a way of
expanding one's political focus in a limited
way.
Another part of the group's political focus can
be on other types of related issues. MSR has taken
some fairly strong stands on issues like
homophobia. Some men are scared off by our stance
of being "too radical". Frequently we have heard
that more men would support us if we wouldn't have
such a strong stand on so many issues. In MSR we do
not lightly insert issues into our agenda. We are
willing to challenge men seriously on issues, when
we feel that they are important.
Every group will need to decide for itself what
the equilibrium is between serious focussing on
issues, and avoiding rocking the boat too much. I
believe that MSR is very effective. We challenge
men in serious ways that personalize our caring and
involvement. We and they may be part of the
problem. We all can help solve the problems within
ourselves. We could have a petition drive to end
rape and get thousands of signatures. It wouldn't
change much.
It is hard to change men unless you can
challenge them. We have found that some men come
back to us and say that our brochure didn't make
sense at first, but now it makes perfect sense.
This has helped us feel successful in what we do.
It is necessary to be in touch with one's needs and
beliefs. It also helps to evaluate how one's
approach is working locally.
XVII. SOME SUGGESTED
WORKSHOP POSSIBILITIES
In planning workshops relating to men and rape
it is important to understand one's audience as
well as what one is comfortable with. Some
audiences will talk readily, while others will be
very reticent or even hostile. In some situations
where women and men are present together, there is
the possibility that some women will not feel safe.
If one's audience is over 15-20 people, it is often
best to have multiple workshops going on at the
same time (particularly if there are enough
facilitators). If this is not possible, one may
wish to have a group of participants at the front
of the room, with others listening and perhaps
asking questions at the end.
If the workshop includes both men and women I
believe it is imperative that women be a part of
the planning and leadership process from the
beginning. The failure to have women as true equals
perpetuates male dominance. This tacitly encourages
rape supportive behaviors. If one's group does not
include both women and men it may be necessary to
work cooperatively with a women's center, a women's
studies program, a rape crisis center or some other
women's group. If one does not have a proven
positive record visible to the women's community,
it may be difficult to get co-leadership. Then one
may need specific friends or allies in the women's
community.
The best workshop I know of for men and women is
the fishbowl discussion. Either the women or the
men talk without interruption by the other gender
for roughly 20-30 minutes (decided beforehand)
about the subject of the discussion. Then the other
group talks similarly uninterrupted for an equal
period of time. Finally both men and women discuss
their feelings together, processing what they have
heard.
If one has a very passive audience, like first
semester college freshmen can be, a brief film or
slide presentation or a discussion by the
co-facilitators could help get things going well.
It is important not to unnecessarily color the
feelings of the participants, so that they feel
they must tow a particular line in their
discussion. Discussion topics can range from the
very specific to the very general. They might
include one's general fears of the other gender,
how one feels going out on a date with a new
acquaintance, what one likes and dislikes about
potential dating partners, how one communicates
one's needs on dates, what fears one has on dates
or on the streets at night, how women and men are
different as friends, etc.
It is important to focus the discussion on
feelings with "I statements", avoiding long
monologues etc. This can help avoid "scholarly
discourses" which frequently leave people
frustrated and disempowered. If there are long
silences at the beginning, the facilitators should
be prepared to start the discussion talking about
their own feelings through their experiences.
Fishbowls can start slowly, but they often build
momentum relatively quickly. They can leave the
audience feeling positive and empowered.
I suggest deciding who should start the fishbowl
to minimize some of the pressures participants may
feel. If wo/men are visiting the other gender's
dormitory floor for the discussion, they may feel
less pressure if they speak last. If there are
distinctly less of one gender present, they may
feel less pressure speaking last. In some
situations men may be more open speaking first, or
they may not open up at all that way. When men go
last, they may react to what the women have
previously said, rather than focusing on their own
feelings.
Both men and women are often fascinated to hear
the feelings of the other gender, often for the
first time. It is an important exercise,
particularly for men, to be listening and not to be
able to respond immediately. Men are often not used
to this situation in supposed egalitarian
situations. Many women have faced it with men
before.
As in all workshop settings it is important to
have enough time for a good discussion and yet not
to totally fatigue one's audience. In my experience
a lot more self-disclosure can happen than one
might expect, particularly if participants are not
primarily close friends of each other. It is
important to not have too much of a gender
imbalance, such as having 20 women with two men. At
that point the minority gender must speak for their
gender, rather than themselves. It also requires
too much talking and thinking of what one will say
next. If there are very few wo/men in proportion to
the other gender I would suggest having a more open
discussion without the fishbowl format.
A format that can be used either with women and
men or with men only is to have an initial
presentation which takes up roughly 25-40% of the
time, followed by a discussion of the issues that
are brought up or some variation of this. This
could include a 20-40 minute film related to rape,
followed by a discussion of issues and feelings
brought up in the film. This is particularly useful
when the audience may be at all resistant to
talking. Co-facilitators could also begin
discussing rape myths and facts. Alternatively they
could discuss their rape related experiences,
followed by a discussion of the audience. Finally
the presentation could focus on specific or general
issues, followed by brief discussions of each
issue. One example of the latter approach might be
to ask individuals to briefly describe experiences
they or their friends had had which made them fear
rape. Some questions may not work out well, but one
can easily then move on to other questions for
discussion.
Discussing what works and doesn't work in such a
variety of workshop possibilities is difficult.
One's audience can make a lot of difference, as
well as the particular presentation. I suggest
avoiding initial presentations that are too long,
intellectual, super-serious or seemingly irrelevant
to the audience, etc. It is considerably easier
when the audience sees immediate relevance to their
lives. Something abstract can easily seem
meaningless to listeners.
It is important to make male members of the
audience not believe that they are being accused of
being rapists. It is particularly necessary for men
to see how the issue is relevant to them. Dating
concerns can frequently be the key to this,
particularly with audiences of teenagers and older
college students. As the audience is more passive,
hostile or larger, things can become more
complicated. Personalizing issues helps prevent
people leaving or tuning out what they are hearing.
Good films are often the key in such
situations.
Sometimes it is important to have some in's with
the men in the audience. Reluctantly present dorm
residents with a floor leader they don't like will
stack the cards against you. Even in such a setting
it is important to get one's message across.
Individual men may not have the courage to buck the
dominant hostility there, but they can be reached.
Many men must hear anti-rape messages more than
once in differing settings, before they will change
their attitudes. Eventually their behaviors may
change. Be alert for possible cues by asking
questions of hosts, sponsors, etc. whenever
possible. Look for similarities and differences
with prior workshop experiences you or others may
have had. Take the time to evaluate both successes
and failures. Show your appreciation for your
co-facilitators.
When one's audience is only men things can be
much easier, much more difficult or both. In
general when one can overcome the homophobia of the
men it makes things a lot easier for most men. Men
are often used to relying on women for their
emotional support. It can be difficult to express
their feelings initially among men. At the same
time it can be very scary to say a lot of true
feeling around women; an important part of one's
topic. Men often say what they think women want to
hear when they are around them, rather than what
they really feel. Men are used to being around
other men in various settings, and this can be used
to advantage in some workshop settings.
One workshop type I have found very useful among
basically supportive men is what I call the "What
If Workshop". This can best be lead by two or more
men who begin some type of a somewhat real,
somewhat vague dating scenario that fits in with
the local community. The workshop focuses on three
basic questions for the men: "What are you feeling
now?" "What is she feeling now?" and "How can you
check out your feelings and what you think her
feelings are?"
Once when I co-lead the workshop with college
dorm men, we started out with the scenario that
follows. "You see a fellow student in a local bar.
You know her from your chemistry lecture section,
but really don't know much more than her name". The
story evolved from there. At any point, either of
the co-facilitators can stop the story to ask the
three questions, or if a new facilitator, to move
the story along in a slightly different way.
When we used the "What If Workshop" the story
evolved into the young lady coming to the man's
apartment. There are no right or wrong answers and
there can be serious disagreements among the
participants which is fine. It brought about an
excellent discussion all during it and helped bring
out various issues of men and acquaintance rape. To
successfully do such a workshop the co-facilitators
need to trust each other and be prepared for
ambiguity and confusion between them. We
interrupted each other several times and openly
disagreed with each other in a calm, supportive
way. This worked out fine.
One type of workshop with men can be just
focusing on rape myths. Where do we learn them and
how are they so wrong? Men can be greatly intrigued
and disturbed learning that roughly 80% of all
rapes are among people who know each other.
Learning that at least one in eight of them
statistically may have been sexually abused as
children is pretty hard to walk away from calmly.
Men can get very defensive about sexist jokes and
catcalls and this can provide the basis of very
good discussions.
Personalize your discussions as much as possible
showing the men in the audience that in significant
ways you are one of them. Acknowledge your past and
present shortcomings and avoid seeming like some
type of god looking down on mortals below you.
Listen for cues and encourage audience
participation. It is very effective when a man
notes that it is different when men whistle and
call out to women than it would be the other way
men, while the men would not fear an assault from a
woman may be heard very differently than it would
have been if you had said the same thing.
It is important to mention that many men are
rape victims and a good percentage of the
perpetrators are straight men. Male rape victims
often have great difficulty expressing their
feelings. Straight male victims often fear that
they will be labeled gay. Gay victims don't
necessarily want to be out or to help perpetuate
straight peoples' myths of supposedly
decadent/deviant gay sexual culture. Discussing
some of these issues can help other men, even when
they don't openly acknowledge it.
Men can be significantly reached in a wide
variety of workshop settings. It is important to
not be too hard on yourself when things don't go
smoothly. It may be difficult for men to
acknowledge that they have been effected by what
they have heard and said. When men are seriously
questioning their beliefs, they can be either very
quiet or very seemingly hostile. Our culture has
built up a vivid rape culture in men's minds for
many years. Overcoming this in one short workshop
would often be amazing!
XVIII. ENDING RAPE AS A
RADICAL VISION FOR MEN
Anti-rape work can be done by a wide variety of
men, who may have relatively little in common with
each other. When one's work is either very
short-term or with minimal commitment, such work
may have relatively little impact on oneself. If
one becomes strongly committed to ending rape,
one's work can increasingly impact upon one's life
as a whole.
Similarly at the other extreme men who actively
support rape in a variety of ways may have very
good reasons for continuing to perpetuate rape.
Whether their insights into these issues recognize
this or not, their behaviors may help to continue
their visions of a reactionary world around
them.
The visions that follow are only one path. We
each have our own ways to move and they can support
each other. Your path is probably different from
mine!
Ending rape for most men seems like a relatively
minor, straightforward issue. Rapists are brutal
beasts out there who should be stopped and locked
up. As we become involved in looking at rape as a
serious issue, things become much more complicated
for us as men. We may start out by trying to define
what rape is.
Rape may start out as something like: "the
forcible penetration of a man's penis into a
resisting woman's vagina". Objections may soon come
up that rape need not involve either a penis or a
vagina as much rape is not like "traditional sex".
Gradually we may become aware that rape victims
often include men, boys and girls.
Eventually we may start to focus on what "force"
and "resistance" mean. Hopefully we start to
respond to those who talk about "real" and "minor"
rapes in a serious way. We realize that rape is far
more than the physical force of some brutal male
against some innocent female.
We understand that the victim of acquaintance
assault in many ways may be more victimized than
the person violated by a stranger. S/he has faced a
traumatic situation where a person s/he has trusted
and perhaps loved has betrayed her/him. S/he may
still have to face this person in her/his daily
life and be reminded regularly of the assault.
As men it is difficult to view rape as more than
a minor beating we might suffer in a fight. Most of
us do not fear sexual assault the way we might fear
being beaten in a "rough" neighborhood of a large
city. We often view sex (and rape) in very concrete
terms. When we first look at sexual assault as an
issue we may think of sexual assault as brutal
force by a stranger. As our views of rape expand,
we become aware of gray areas for us as men. Women
oftentimes view rape much differently from us. If
we listen to them we may become confused. Have we
been fed a lie about what rape is? Are we in a
totally different world from many women?
Can we ever really feel the fear that many women
have of rape?
At first it may be easy to deal with the issue
of resistance by the assault victim. We learn that
rape is often accompanied by either a weapon or the
threat of a supposed weapon. Many of us would not
resist a robbery attempt under similar
circumstances. It is also easy to understand how a
sexual assailant often surprises the victim. This
makes resistance difficult.
Our visions may become muddied when we become
more intimately aware of acquaintance assault. We
hear that the man was dating the woman. They were
rather intimate and she cried "rape" afterwards.
Many of us were taught that women were supposed to
say they didn't want sex. We men were supposed to
keep pushing because we needed sex and women really
wanted it.
Initially it may seem rather absurd that we
always need to check out potential sexual partner's
feelings and desires. Why should we need to ask
more questions, when things aren't totally clear.
We are not used to talking about sex with others,
at least prior to being sexual with them. We have
fears of rejection and don't want to face that
again. Gradually we may become aware of the need to
truly have consensual sex. This can be quite a
breakthrough in our understanding of rape as "any
non-consensual sexual activity".
When we start looking at our needs to check
things out (particularly with women) we can easily
open up plenty of bags of worms. Women friends may
start to talk about how we are the aggressor
sexually and they don't like it. We may become
immediately defensive, because we feel that we are
trying our best, and being attacked in spite of it.
We may then try to lighten up and feel that they
are not taking the initiative.
As we start exploring the issues that come up in
more depth, we may start seeing things that we
never saw before. We may discover that the "radical
feminist" world out there may have a lot of ideas
that are relevant for us. When we talk with women
about these ideas they may open up some and then
shut us out. We are not women, and can't get into
the women's world. If we get enough nerve to talk
with a male friend, we may be ridiculed or
ignored.
We may notice for the first time that we men
generally dominate one on one discussions with
women as well as larger discussions. We may begin
to see how little of our world around us we are
really a part of. We may be knowledgeable about
politics, sports, our work environments and a few
other areas. We may realize how little we know
about nurturing our family relationships and giving
in our relationships in non-material ways.
As we explore areas such as these we may tend to
try to bounce from one extreme to another. When we
see ourselves dominating discussions we may try to
withdraw. Gradually we learn that rebelling against
ourselves isn't a solution either. We then may
begin the difficult process of exploring who we are
and who we want to be.
This can often be a lonely, difficult struggle.
We may feel support from some women. It is often
difficult to get a lot of support from other men.
We don't have a lot of clear ideals to follow. We
may see women who have been successful feminists,
but we aren't women. We may find it difficult to
get rewards as men by following these paths. We may
need a fix of our old ways to keep us going.
As we continue this exploration, we may start to
question lots of other areas in our lives. Our
needs to dominate others sounds a lot like the
United States Government's needs to dominate Third
World countries. The Russian Government may become
less of the "Russki Bears" and more like men who
are aggressively similar to us.
If our thoughts expand, we may recognize how our
needs to dominate are reflected in our classist
society. Whiteness, being male, and being upper
middle class can all help us dominate others, who
are not so privileged. These types of thoughts can
go in various directions.
If our thoughts keep going, we may recognize how
people such as our President and many of his
closest business allies may have strong reasons for
being supportive of rape. They may not realize what
they do as being largely rape supportive or they
may be craftier than we give them credit for. It
isn't that our current president is a conservative,
if not reactionary Republican. He could be a
liberal Democrat and be very similar.
"Work hard and you will get ahead. If you follow
that credo, you will get your just reward. The
world isn't fair all the time but the All-American
Way is the one good way. If we could only go back
to the way things were when we were kids,
everything would be just fine".
The trust that these (generally) men seek, is to
allow them to continue to rape others both
figuratively and in some cases literally. Power
often equates with money, maleness and whiteness.
Black women must be wealthy to have any power, but
they are still "niggers" and "cunts", when others
don't see or respect their money, if they haven't
lost it.
Power (which often includes money) buys sex! It
is not only the reactionary politicians who seek
out prostitutes and young women to fawn over their
male egos. Our higher paychecks make women unable
to leave us, despite our raping and battering of
them.
No matter how low we sink, we always think that
some woman will nurture us and accept us for who we
are. We are after all a man! She must value us and
accept our limitations, because we are (??) giving
her a lot. We don't need to pick up the pieces,
cleaning the house, doing the routine, rather than
the gourmet cooking, taking care of the children
when we don't want to etc.
It isn't just us straight men that are the
problem. Gay men contribute their share, as they
are (often white) men. We also aren't always all
that terrible. We do share our maleness though with
these other men. We may not be just like our
"enemies", but we are a part of them and they are a
part of us.
Some of this hopefully is now changing, but we
have a long way to go! There is no easy answer for
how we should respond. We can apologize for our
gender, but that doesn't do anything. We can
paralyze ourselves with guilt, but what good does
that do. We can pretend that we aren't really men
and spend most of our time with women. We are still
men.
We must live positively as men. We must help
create a new vision of what being a man is, to help
end rape and to help make ourselves into whole
people. We must communicate as ourselves with both
women and men. We must confront things we oppose.
We must figure out how we can best work to make
positive alternatives. We must celebrate our
successes and accept our failures.
Working seriously against rape is radical for
most men. Your road may be very different from my
path. You may disagree with what I see and feel.
You must do what you must do.
XIX.
CONCLUSIONS/OTHER
I have tried in the preceding chapters to
express my feelings moderately objectively. In
conclusion I would like to focus on a few parts of
the work that reflect my unadulterated biases.
Rapists are men like all of us in a lot of ways.
We have needs to control and dominate which they
use violently through sex. Unlike burglary, rape is
not basically an economic crime, so that rich,
famous people can be rapists, just like poor
people. Obviously the media often make it sound
like rapists are predominantly poor and Black, but
this is simply not true. The rich are better at
avoiding the press, the courts and jail.
In Ohio a few years ago a seemingly happily
married doctor was convicted of a significant
number of rapes through his medical practice. His
wife had no idea he was a rapist. They allegedly
were not in a celibate relationship. Although he
obviously had some problems, he had a lot in common
with other men I know and with me.
If you are a man and you want to work on rape as
an issue, I hope that you will explore the issues
personally, and keep exploring them personally. We
named our group "Men Stopping Rape" not out of
arrogance, thinking that we could miraculously stop
other men (minimizing the women's anti-rape
movement). We had a need to acknowledge that we
were stopping OUR support of rape. We were helping
to end rape within ourselves.
I think it is very important for us as men to
identify with rape as an unfortunately "normal"
part of men's lives. This doesn't mean that it is
acceptable. We will never be effective at ending
rape if we continue to see it as something out
there that isn't a part of us. It is important for
us to reach as many men as we can as effectively as
possible. Do not forget that rape supportive
behaviors are learned behaviors. We need to reach
our young men in school. MSR has done effective
work in Madison Public High Schools. In a few years
hopefully we will be able to work with the middle
schools and perhaps eventually in the elementary
schools. It is important to reach men of all ages,
but reaching our younger men is particularly
critical.
Don't minimize the work that you do and what you
can do. Writing letters to the editor or to one's
father or brother can be effective anti-rape work.
Being visible holding a sign at a rally is
effective action. Licking stamps may be important
work. Talking with your co-workers is important.
Just being visible as a man against rape is
important.
My experiences with men and rape have been
primarily related to the rape of women and female
children by men. I hope that my writings will in no
way support the myth that insignificant numbers of
men are rape victims as well! The rape of men is a
very, very serious issue which deserves
substantially more study by men. Within some gay
communities the issue is starting to get much
needed attention. Within prisons, where the vast
majority of rapists are heterosexual men, far too
little attention has been paid to the issue. The
attitude has been very similar to that in the
community at large, where the victim is blamed for
his/her assault.
The rape of men everywhere in our society is a
serious issue which very little is known about. A
few courageous men have told their stories and
largely have been ignored. Most rape crisis centers
have staffs totally pr predominantly of women. Many
of these women have counseled male victims. They
have given help similar to what they have given
their female callers. At times some of the male
victims have felt like they weren't taken seriously
by women. Authors of books and other feminist
activists have spoken of rape as "a crime against
women". Some male rape victims have felt that this
made them as male victims invisible. They feel
incredible pain as a rape victim. Society ignores
them. Those who speak out about rape ignore them.
This can hurt a lot!
It is time that we as men get over our
homophobia and our misogynist views towards women
and recognize that male victims are out there and
deserve our serious support, even when we can't
readily see them and hear their cries for help. As
long as we see women and not men as our rescuers,
nurturers and healers, we will perpetuate our rape
supportive culture. This will not help end
rape!
I am deeply troubled that we as men direct so
much anger in rape related areas at women. A few
women are rapists. Unfortunately, similarly few men
work seriously to help end rape. Most rapists are
men, but most men deny that rape is a men's
issue.
Most war makers, supporters of war and others
that make wars possible are men. A significant
majority of non-violent protesters against wars are
women. The victims of war are both women and men.
Most rapists, supporters of rape and others that
make rape possible are men. A significant majority
of non-violent protesters of rape are women. The
victims are both women and men. When will we as men
wake up?
In conclusion, I would urge others to
communicate with me and other men. Write down your
ideas and share them. There is one good book that I
know of concerning men and rape written by a man
(Timothy Beneke's Men On Rape, St. Martin's Press,
1982). If you haven't read it, buy it (it's out in
paperback) and read it.
Don't say that you aren't an expert and have
nothing to say. Express your feelings, your
concerns, your experiences, etc. Tell your feelings
to friends, family, co-workers, acquaintances and
those you meet! When necessary be loud and clear!
Write down your ideas and share them with
others!
Thank you for listening to me
To Listen
To Listen
seems simple, but
To Really Hear
What is said -
The Feelings Coming out of the Words
is sometimes Challenging
and Occasionally Impossible!
-
The More that I know,
The More that I recognize
How Little - I Know
-
I Know
That I Don't Know
The Lived Experience(s)
Beyond My Nose
My Nose Can Seem
to Grow Longer and Longer
as I Deceive Myself
When
I don't hear and feel Myself
Closing Me Off
from any Chance
of Hearing You
Because
Our Truths May Clash
or be Overlapping
or At War
With Each Other
Both right
and/or
Both Wrong
and/or
Permutations, Combinations and/or More -
or Less
-
When I Really Listen
I Can Grow a little
Regardless of the Outcome
in the Moment(s)
Presenting Themselves
Weaving in
and Out
of My Consciousness
-
Listening with Some
is a Blessing
as Our Spirits Converge
I will cry
And Laugh
Feeling the Deep Connection
Of Meaning
Whether - our realities
Our True Lives
are Similar (rarely)
or Very Different (commonly)
-
Listening to You
Is
Much, Much More Important
for Me
and Much, Much, Much Harder
-
I Struggle
and
Plod On
-
Feeling Both My Failures
and When I've Actually Done
Both
My Best - and
Really, Honestly Quite Well
Yet I Hear
Acrimony - Anger, Resignation, Frustration
Memories - Bad Memories
of The Past
My Past
-
My Shame
My Attempts at Atonement
Aren't Enough
Aren't Close to Enough
to Open - a Path
Towards
Something,
Something
That Can Blend
Both
You and I
On the Rivers
of Gentle - Soft
Water(s)
Where
You and I
Can Feel Heard
-
I Try to Learn
From Both
Successes
and the More Common
Feelings
of Failure,
Emptiness
Tears
Pain
-
My Heart is Opening
and Growing
Deeper
Despite
How Really Hard
it is
On This Path
-
This Path
is The Only Way
-
-To remain static
Trying to Hold On
to the Present
and Through it
To A Distant
Weak - Not Good
Past
Is No Way,
Tis Worse than No Way
-
My Myths
Reflect My Fears
of Being
Really Being
a Person, a Male Adult
I could look back upon
at my End
With Respect
-
Pride Can Mask
Self-Failure
It can also
Reflect
Listening
Really Listening
and Hearing
the Most That I Can Hear
-Whether Enough
or Not
Might Become
Me Finally Becoming
Real
Whether Alone
or Not
-
I can't control
You
Your Needs
Your Desires
Your Heart
Your Spirit
I can Try,
However things Turn Out,
,Me - Becoming
My Better Self
isn't and Won't
Be Easy,
-But
I Am Trying,
and
I will Try
More Seriously
With More Passion
as Long
as I Can!
Rape and More
The Accused is a 1988 American legal drama film
directed by Jonathan Kaplan from a screenplay
written by Tom Topor. The film is loosely based on
the 1983 gang rape of Cheryl Araujo in New Bedford,
Massachusetts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Accused_(1988_film)
I'm in tears! My Autism is "acting up"
incredibly (sic)! Ten minutes ago as Jodie Foster's
first Oscar winning performance was coming to a
conclusion, I totally lost it. If I had been
driving a car then, I would have needed to
immediately pull over to avoid a possible
crash.
I don't recall ever watching a movie with a
totally explicit rape scene, particularly of a gang
rape. That was horrifying, but that isn't what
totally got to me. Jodie Foster was amazing, simply
amazing! The young rape witness who testified and
through that really "convicted" - the guilty - was
most credible, believable and encouraging. Neither
of the two of them were "heroes" - in the normal
use of that word. They both were individuals we
might speak of as: "flawed".
There are the "innocent rape victims" - who we
all feel empathy for. The "nun" assaulted in a
locked house, with locked windows is a
stereotypical example of this. No one could accuse
her of being complicit in her rape.
There are the "justifiable rape victims" - the
women - who "asked for it".
Rosa Parks was portrayed as the "innocent
victim" on segregated buses, because she was not
"flawed" by "immoral behavior" that a prior
potential litigant allegedly had. Rosa Parks,
however, was not "innocent". She was already an
activist in the work to end the racist segregation
she faced every day in her life.
Jodie Foster's character - was no "Rosa Parks"!
She drank (too much), she smoked both weed, and
plenty of cigarettes. She was neither "virginal"
(sic) nor a "God Fearing Christian (wife) Woman".
She had just had a fight with her live-in
boyfriend. She joked that she'd take a cute guy
home and "f" him in front of the boyfriend. She
willingly danced closely with a young man and
happily kissed him. Significantly in her case,
there were no other women in the room she had moved
into, where they had been playing pinball.
By the time she significantly resisted the
advances, things were out of control. The initial
assailant pulled down her bra, touched her breasts,
and then moved to vaginally penetrate her. The rape
escalated into gang rape rapidly. The "public"
nature of the assault greatly affected the outcome.
The spectators, with a single exception, encouraged
the first two assailants. The third rapist had been
homophobically ridiculed to show his "manliness"
(sic)! The other vocal spectators pressured and
supported him.
The victim had zero options until her
traumatized escape, semi-naked out of the bar
during an extremely brief opportunity
Emotionally - this movie is very powerful. It
exposes both the simplicity of rape, and the
complexities it pushes at its victims. Surviving
assault - is faintly comparable to the loss of a
young child, by her caring parent(s). The trauma of
what has happened builds in its
survivor(s)/victim(s), making an "escape" only
possible through some type of denial such as
frequent drunkenness.
This movie - blends in my memories - closely -
with a very different movie: Promising Young
Woman (my review - URL first www.georgemarx.org/2021/01/promising-young-woman.html)
- TRIGGER WARNING
Promising Young Woman is a movie that
touched me in a way that I've never been touched
before!!!!
It will greatly upset any viewers who really
care about women and rape!
It exposes the lies, deceit and avoidance that
we men often live with remaining silent.
We try to protect ourselves from horrible things
that we have done in the past.
We try to protect both other men, and ourselves,
from horrible things ,that one or more of us did in
the past.
Emerald Fennell is an insightful, brilliant,
caring woman! She wrote, produced, and directed
this amazing film!
As a man who helped co-found Men Stopping Rape,
Inc - in 1983, I have cared about the issue of rape
for a long time!
See: georgesworldonthewater.blogspot.com/2020/05/my-1987-mens-anti-rape-organizing.html
This movie explicitly exposes the horrors of our
abuse and more! Our silence indicts us!
Trigger Warning: This movie can easily
trigger survivors and perhaps some others who
care!
Both of these movies - move me directly, as a
man! They remind me of the sex I had as an
inexperienced 19 ½ year old, with a much more
sexually experienced (than me) 14 year old girl. I
was 100% wrong - it was abusive - me abusing her.
Another example - Once - in my early 20's - I
contacted a younger woman I'd barely known -
seeking (blindly) a sexual tie to her, even having
the nerve to tell her that I was only interested in
seeing her in such a way. That was abusive!
Believing - being - Feeling - and similar -
While I'm ashamed of some of what I've done,
this is Not - what moves me here.
I do not feel sexually attracted to Trans
People. I do not feel sexually attracted most of
the time to reasonably Thin women, who do not look
- "normal" as in how a majority of women are - who
are not "model thin". Pretty and sexually
attractive are not the same thing.
None - of this matters!
Finding meaning in life matters! Reaching beyond
my comfort zones matters! Staying - in
Uncomfortable Space - when it reflects Deep(er)
Truths matters a lot!
Sexism - doesn't persist - because of we, the
Cis-Gendered Men - avoiding doing the right thing",
though we Do and Should Aspire to do what is right
frequently.
What does being Male mean? For me - it initially
means - seeking to move on a path - an unclear path
-
That Path seeks something from within my Spirit!
To say that it is "gender equity" - feels true - in
My Head - but is less clear in my heart - Honestly,
I don't fully know what it is.
What I can see within me is a desire - for
Connection. I want to be connected with multiple
worlds beyond myself.
What is Rape?
Rape is Power Over Another - Extreme Power - the
Other - doesn't matter, doesn't count.
Rape is the Storms -that ravage us - Rape of the
Land(s)!
Rape is the Oppressions of the Children - and
the child - within all of us
Rape - is the Massive - Blame - of the Poor, the
"Foreigner", the "immigrant" - the "jew" - "the
socialist" - "the liberal" - "the do gooder" - "the
bleeding heart"- "the ____" (so many words I won't
use or even think of - besides - the simple: "Black
woman" (not: "Black Woman")
Moving in a different direction - rape - is an
important issue to me, as is reproductive justice
(abortion is a part of it).
As caring human beings, particularly in this
case as an upper-middle class cis-gendered white
male - I (and we) can and often do support causes
that reflect our interests and things that closely
tie in with our lives. Where we have a special
needs child, we may get involved in a cause related
to special needs children, for example. As Jews, we
may get involved in issues related to Anti-Semitism
and/or Israel.
Working in these ways is important work for us
to do. We can also stretch our visions - and reach
beyond our - self-interests - at least on the
surface. Amongst others - sometimes it is
self-obvious. A Black person may focus upon racism
issues. A woman may focus upon sexism related
issues.
I would note that Black, Queer Lesbians do a lot
of social justice work, as well as other relevant
work, often far beyond their numbers. White,
cis-gendered, het, upper-middle class men not
strangely at all - we do far less than our numbers
might suggest we "should" be doing. It is far, far
different for us! We don't get kicked in the pants
- in our daily lives, when we don't step up.
I get a lot more compliments about my work from
"oppressed" people vs. those who are seemingly
similar to me. Indeed, it is so, so easy - to take
in the compliments and to have a false sense that I
am doing far, far more than I actually am
doing.
To really help effectuate meaningful change in
the crazy worlds that I live in today, a lot of us
who don't need to do the work, really need
to start doing what we can. We need to reach out as
outsiders, in supporting others - whose lives may
differ greatly from ours. For me - this is often my
Reproductive Justice related work. It also relates
to really caring deeply about, and try to do more
work related to helping end rape and sexual
abuse.
Due to our privilege, we have disproportionate
power to be heard, and through that, to effectuate
or support others in building positive major
efforts for gender and racial justice. For me -
this work is meaningful and doing this meaningful
work pleases me. Doing it - also is challenging. At
times - I'm in pain. This pain is minor compared to
the pain of many who are directly impacted by the
oppression.
Me - guilt tripping you - is Not Effective! I
hope that you will do what you can do, because it
is important for you - it is what you want to do.
I'm not a better person, because of what I do. I'm
a good person to the degree that I do what I can -
towards helping others - who are already doing the
work.
It is not helpful for me to judge
you!
I will return to my tears - at other times. The
two movies - I've discussed have been excellent
influences upon me.
I wish the best for you! I can't possibly know
what your path is! I trust that you will do your
best to find your way, if you are not already doing
it.
Rape is Real to Me
and Means More Than the Facts
On January 18, 2015, on the
Stanford
University campus, Brock Allen
Turner, then a 19-year-old
student
athlete at Stanford, sexually
assaulted 22-year-old
Chanel
Miller (referred to in court
documents as "Emily
Doe"), while she was
unconscious.[4][5][6][1]
Two graduate students intervened and held Turner in
place until police
arrived.[1][7]
Turner was arrested and released the same day after
posting $150,000
bail.[8][9][10]
The trial concluded on March 30, 2016,
with Turner convicted of three charges of felony
sexual
assault.[2][3]
On June 2, 2016, Santa Clara County Superior Court
Judge Aaron
Persky sentenced Turner to six months
in jail followed by three years of probation.
Additionally, Turner was obliged to register as a
sex
offender for
life[12]
and to complete a rehabilitation program for sex
offenders.[3]
Turner was released after serving half of his
sentence for good
behavior.[13]
In December 2017, Turner appealed his sentence.
However, his appeal was declined on August 8,
2018.[14][15]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner
The facts seem obvious! A 22 year old woman was
drunk and unconscious. A 19 year old drunk man,
Brock Turner, engaged in sexual contact with her.
Two other young men saw what was happening, and
intervened, holding the man, who sought to escape.
Turner pleaded innocent of multiple charges. A jury
found Brock Turner guilty on multiple counts. He
was sentenced to six months in prison, and served
three months before being released. Significantly
for his future, he is required to register as a
sex-offender whenever he moves (for the rest of his
life).
I see two contrasting perspectives on this:
1. A young man has already been significantly
punished for a poor choice he made, and should
not have his life ruined by continuing
punishment,
Vs.
2. A young woman was brutally sexually
assaulted. Her sister and she (and perhaps other
women) face life-long trauma which was completely
caused by the young man's actions. He has never
seriously accepted responsibility for what he did.
He has done nothing to show his concern for these
two women (and others who have been similarly
assaulted).
I find it difficult to see the young man as a
victim. He was on a swimming scholarship at
Stanford University. He contested the facts. He
sought sympathy, despite having done horrific
things to a woman. She did nothing wrong.
Brock Turner could have been sentenced to, and
required to serve 14 years in prison. He served
1/56th of this time! He did not gratefully accept
this. Instead, he appealed his conviction!
Additional quotes from the survivor of the
sexual assault.
On that morning, all that I was told was that
I had been found behind a dumpster, potentially
penetrated by a stranger, and that I should get
retested for HIV because results don't always show
up immediately.
My sister picked me up, face wet from tears
and contorted in anguish. Instinctively and
immediately, I wanted to take away her pain.
One day, I was at work, scrolling through the
news on my phone, and came across an article. In
it, I read and learned for the first time about how
I was found unconscious, with my hair disheveled,
long necklace wrapped around my neck, bra pulled
out of my dress, dress pulled off over my shoulders
and pulled up above my waist, that I was butt naked
all the way down to my boots, legs spread apart,
and had been penetrated by a foreign object by
someone I did not recognize. This was how I learned
what happened to me, sitting at my desk reading the
news at work. I learned what happened to me the
same time everyone else in the world learned what
happened to me. That's when the pine needles in my
hair made sense, they didn't fall from a tree. He
had taken off my underwear, his fingers had been
inside of me. I don't even know this person. I
still don't know this person.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/06/stanford-sexual-assault-case-victim-impact-statement-in-full
Most people have been and are not seriously
impacted by the news of this assault and the words
of the woman who survived it.
A moderate number of people - have been and/or
are seriously traumatized by all of this. These
people will never forget! It may trigger - their
own traumas - from significant things that they've
experienced. The vast majority of these people are
and will be women and girls.
Others - will be or have been disturbed by this.
They differ from those traumatized because the
effect upon them will be substantially less, as
well as often disappearing - essentially being
forgotten.
Men, in particular, will be much more likely to
fit in this latter category, rather than the one
preceding it. Far fewer of us have direct ties to
what happened. Far fewer of us - go deeply into our
feelings - staying with them.
There are core systemic differences that we have
as - gendered people. While our life experiences
significantly differ from each other, we face some
basic differences - that are often gendered.
Example:
I, a man, am walking alone - in the dark - well
away from home - in an area that doesn't feel
safe.
Who do I fear?
Clearly - a male person who is probably
somewhere between around age 16 and some age - from
around 25 - to, in some situations - perhaps
someone in their 50's or so.
What do I fear?
Most vividly - I fear a male person with either
a handgun, or the appearance that he likely has a
handgun that I can not see. I fear that he will rob
me of my wallet, perhaps my cell phone or my car. I
fear that I could be killed - if he believes that I
am resisting him.
I can imagine trying to run away from him. If I
feel that he is after me, and I see a safe place to
run to, I may consider running.
Now, let's assume that instead of 71 year old,
white male, George, we are talking about a female
person.
What does she fear?
Well, she certainly could have a fear similar to
mine! Most likely though, the primary fear she has
is different! Her fear is gendered. She fears a
sexual assault, or a rape from a man or boy!
In my head I know that I could (also) be raped.
I don't seriously fear it, though.
Now - presume, that this hypothetical woman or
girl - has had an actual threatening situation in
her past. She may have been assaulted. She may have
feared being assaulted. Someone close to her may
have told her of a similar experience!
I can not know, particularly within my body the
fears that women and girls have - similar to what I
have alluded to.
Speaking of gendered differences, let's assume
that I have had a serious experience in my past,
where a partner, a female child of mine, my mother,
a close female friend or co-worker - or similar had
either been assaulted or felt in danger of being
assaulted. Let's also presume that she told me of
this experience in significant detail.
I can certainly imagine that I might seek
professional help with a therapist. I would likely
want to deal with intense feelings I had. I also
might not have others to talk with and want to know
how I could emotionally support this woman or
girl.
How likely is it that I, as a male, would
subsequently turn to active volunteer or
professional work, focused upon issues related to
sexual assault?
Perhaps, I'm off. I imagine a few, but only very
few such men - becoming active.
My sense is that it would be much different for
women, in similar situations. I believe that a
significant minority of comparable women would do
something substantial, related to sexual assault. I
also believe that comparable women would in general
sustain their work significantly longer, on
average, than men doing such work.
I can readily concede that gendered differences
will persist. Similarly, more Black People are
likely to work on racial justice issues than white
people. The issue to me is the size of the gender
disparities. 40 men, on average, in contrast to 60
women, would be "fully realistic". The reality,
however, seems to me to be far, far from this. I
see perhaps two men, on average, vs. ninety-eight
women, excluding for the moment the gender fluid
and non-conforming other people.
Lastly you said, I want to show people that
one night of drinking can ruin a life.
Ruin a life, one life, yours, you forgot
about mine.
All the crying, the hurting you have imposed
on me, I can take it. But when I see my younger
sister hurting, when she is unable to keep up in
school, when she is deprived of joy, when she is
not sleeping, when she is crying so hard on the
phone she is barely breathing, telling me over and
over she is sorry for leaving me alone that night,
sorry sorry sorry, when she feels more guilt than
you, then I do not forgive you.
Right now your name is tainted, so I
challenge you to make a new name for yourself, to
do something so good for the world, it blows
everyone away. You have a brain and a voice and a
heart. Use them wisely. You possess immense love
from your family. That alone can pull you out of
anything. Mine has held me up through all of this.
Yours will hold you and you will go on.
Most importantly, thank you to the two men
who saved me, who I have yet to meet.
Now - more recently - updates from: sfist.com/2022/08/22/stanford-rapist-brock-turner-goes-viral-again-on-tiktok-in-ohio/
In 2018, Turner also tried to appeal his
conviction on the basis that he was only engaged in
"outercourse" or "dry humping," but a judge shot
that down.
"Brock Turner is now living in the Dayton,
Ohio, area," says one recent Facebook post. "He is
frequenting bars in the area. Do not let him leave
with an intoxicated woman. Inform the women of who
he is. Inform the bartender, bouncers. Brock Turner
does not belong in public."
I try to seriously work on multiple issues that
concern me! I do not expect men to rush and join me
in my outrage - related to this horrible rape - and
much, much more! Similarly, I do not expect men to
rush and join me in my outrage - related to the
Dobbs - Supreme Court Decision. It overturned Roe
vs. Wade - allowing states to prosecute women,
girls, trans men and medical providers, who perform
and have abortions. Similarly, I do not expect
white men to rush in joining me in white
Anti-Racism trainings and work, supporting the work
of BIPOC - struggling to end systemic racism in the
United States.
I do hope that men - will listen and speak their
truths - related to these and many other issues.
Where we are now - two percent, I hope that a year
from now we will be at least four percent, and a
year later at least eight percent.
I hope that we will - move into relationship -
with other men - in doing our personal work
together. I hope that we won't rely upon others
to teach us! We can learn from them - reading,
listening, and much more - without draining them
(further). Black Women, white women, the
Queer/Gender-non-Binary People and other
"outsiders" - do The Work already.
We can be "in community" with each other
- and in the end - with "them" - as we become both
- "part of them" - and "outsiders who
support all".
If (when) we do this, we will learn that our
lives have much more meaning! If (when) we do this,
we will learn that we can be "healthy" physically
and emotionally! It is lonely - being a man! It
doesn't have to be that way!
I always try to be open to listening! You,
sharing your truths with me - helps me learn! I
have a lot to learn! I'm trying! Thanks!
Introduction: Part
III: The Journey - My Heart - Beginning
I began my Journey under intense pressure. I
questioned myself, learning more, and more as I
listened. No longer was I justifying my behavior by
what B2 said or did. The personal and political -
blended together. Feelings - started to matter more
and more - as "triggering" - was often The
Word.
I really am clueless, as to why things
started to change so dramatically for me!
Living in Chicago was a welcome change, after
Seattle, however this doesn't explain it at all. My
changes were moving out of my head, into my heart
and spirit in large part. No longer were things
either: "good" or "bad", "interesting" or
"not-interesting and more. My judgments of others
were shifting, always trying to take in something
positive out of their words .
I began seeking connection, commonality,
partnership, being in shared space, and more. It
was and is an accelerating process, with hick ups
of self-doubt and setback, and generally
significant progress. I'm not "there", and never
will be "there" - but I'm moving along the ever
widening road.
In the late spring I discovered Organizing White
Men for Collective Liberation (OWMCL) (www.owmcl.org).
Ironically (on zoom) I was paired with Dan - of
suburban Chicago - who helped me co-form the
Chicago Chapter of this new organization.
"Intersectionality" - became my buzzword as I
explored my own racism, sexism, classism,
heterosexism and how they impacted me individually
and collectively. I was already connected with
Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) (www.JewishVoiceForPeace.org)
and connected with their Chicago Chapter (as I had
previously in Seattle and the Bay Area when I lived
in those areas).
It was a significant change, when I limited my
JVP efforts because I had too many other higher
priority things I wanted to focus upon, while still
supporting their work.
ManKind Project - (mkpusa.org/)
- had been in my life beginning just after the
death of my mother in 2014. My I-Group - had been
one of the few points of connection I had in
Seattle in my Darkest days. In Seattle I listened a
lot, but was far, far from doing my share of the
meaningful work.
In Chicago I encountered a bizarre series of
disconnects, as I tried to join a local
I-Group, 99+% of which were other men's
inappropriate behavior. I gave up!
On the train to New Orleans in April, 2019 - B2
found a listing online, helping me connect to
Victories (www.victoriesformen.org/)
- where I found connection, what I wasn't finding
with The ManKind Project. My initial November, 2019
training was exceptional, and with the
encouragement of a small group facilitator, I moved
towards their leadership training.
I abandoned this path, after recognizing a core
belief there, that I will not accept! For me - in
my work - the personal is political, and the
political is personal. Victories should not become
"political", however it should recognize the power
of white, male, cis, upper-middle class privilege.
Inevitably the values of others are marginalized,
when we don't "politicize" Victories through
identifying our multiple identities in our work.
Essentially - we need to "politicize" it, while Not
making it "Political".
In December, 2019, B2 suggested that I take an
online test to determine if I might be autistic. I
had dismissed that idea during the past late
summer. A newly trained psychiatrist responded to
my question about Autism (Aspergers) asking a few
questions of me, and then saying that: "with 100%
certainty I am definitely not autistic". I would
URGE others to be careful with exclamations such as
these which are a disservice to those of us who are
that 0%.
My initial writing about this: I'M OUT - I'M on
the Spectrum - (www.georgemarx.org/2020/01/within-past-few-days-i-have-learned.html)
- explains this in more detail.
This self-knowledge has dramatically helped my
journey forward.
I have learned of the importance of a few major
issues dating to my childhood, which tie in with my
autism, including the fact that my mother also was
autistic.
As a child I had insecure - attachment with my
parents (and no bonds to another adult).
I am grateful that my parents (,particularly my
father,) brought us up caring seriously about
racism, and to think for ourselves. At the same
time it was traumatic to have being
different - a core family value. Not having
television (by choice), having no interest in
popular culture, not caring about our clothes, and
more, added to the extreme emotional isolation I
experienced beginning in early childhood.
I was taught that intellect and "being in my
head" was "the (only) way". My emotions were
ignored. No one listened and heard me.
I have been working on healing from my traumas
since then. This has been a very important part of
my journey! Upon the urging of B2, I found an
incredible fellow Aspie (therapist) - Amanda - to
help me. She helped me move from intense pain and
hurt, to being a lot more comfortable in my own
skin. Amanda helped me much more over the two and
two-thirds years she worked with me than the many
other individual and couples' therapists I've
(collectively) had in my lifetime.
I have learned to be in my feelings - to
experience them as fully as I can, and to honor
them. There is a huge difference between this and
letting my feelings "rule me", which would never be
helpful. When kidney stones ravaged me, I survived
the initial onslaught, simply doing my best to cope
and survive. I then embraced feeling and
experiencing the low levels of pain I was in,
rather than trying to ignore and dull them.
Getting out of my head is a continuing,
meaningful part of my journey.
--
Recognizing my various identities and how they
inter-relate is important to me! I am:
1. White, 2. Male, 3. Cis-Gendered, 4. Jewish,
5. Autistic, 6. Upper-Middle Class, 7. Aging
(old?), 8. Able bodied (despite having some major
health issues), and: 9. In-Extremely-Good Physical
Shape - for starters..
How significant these identities may be
(individually) - varies significantly, however the:
white-male - part of me is often - most
significant.
Very important to me is - caring about others -
well beyond those who are closest to me - and
wanting to both:
1. Be with them - in support of them, while
recognizing that:
2. I will remain an outsider - who needs to
acknowledge this at the same time.
A lot of people talk of their desires to be:
"Happy". "All I want in life is to have lasting
happiness around those I care deeply about, sharing
the good and bad with my family and friends." - is
Not - what I am seeking!
I am seeking a Meaningful Life. As I am
increasingly growing, I face the challenges of
listening deeply and experiencing my spirit and
heart - through my feelings, as well as through
reflection and thought.
There is guilt and shame! I will always regret
that I was not there for my son as he grew up in
deep, meaningful ways - accepting him, and loving
him deeply. I was stuck in my own s__t - not loving
and caring for myself.
Also important here is how I wasn't there for my
two life partners, the two "B's for for many
years.
I can not undo - the hurt that I've caused. I
can try to learn of their impact. I can try to
atone. I can Do Better!
I live in a world that is Not Just!
Racism will not end until white people
acknowledge that it is a - WHITE PEOPLE'S
ISSUE - and begin seriously doing the work in
support of BIPOC (Black and Indigenous People of
Color) - particularly Black People.
Sexism will not end until men acknowledge that
it (including: Rape/Sexual Abuse, Domestic
Violence, Reproductive Justice (including
Abortion)) are all - MEN'S ISSUES - and
begin seriously doing the work in support of girls,
women, and others who, for example may be gender
non-conforming.
B2, a Black, Queer Identified Female - can, and
does hurt me - a cis-gendered, privileged white
man. Racism - is systemic - not primarily personal.
Sexism - is systemic - not primarily personal.
B2 can use race and gender - and more
"against" me. There is, however, a
significant difference in me using racism and
sexism against her - when I do it.
I can not escape, nor do I want to, my
socialization and life experiences of racism and
sexism. I, alone, can not end my
internalized racism and sexism, any more than I can
end them societally (systemically).
I can, and do, and will continue to try to work
on supporting the work of others towards
systemic justice through lasting work with
and amongst others. Doing that work requires me to
sustain myself - taking time for relaxation and
pleasure, such as playing duplicate bridge and
spending time with our dog Zoey.
I am not competing with others! We support each
other!
My most meaningful work of the past several
years has had a huge impact on me!
Andy recruited me into the Belmont-Cragin
neighborhood Mutual Collective which is a part of
the NWMA Coalition (Northwest Mutual Aid) in
Chicago. Being among much younger, significantly
Female, Queer, Trans people I Firetrucked Up - in
my early days, and was scared that I'd be kicked
out. That helped me listen, grow, learning how to
better deal with my issues! I became "The Pallet
Jack" operator - frequently moving our groceries,
dry goods and other things in our warehouse. Much,
much more importantly - I found community - support
- love and caring for others who are very different
from me. It was most meaningful - when I returned
to Chicago several weeks ago to work on Bag Build
on Friday, and distribution Saturday morning! I
will never forget this incredible experience of my
past - where I can and will return, when I can.
On a Planned Parenthood sponsored march, we
walked past the Family Planning Associates Abortion
Clinic - which grabbed my attention, motivating me
to becoming a Clinic Escort. This was particularly
important for me coping with my feelings just
before and after the Dobbs Decision decimated the
rights of girls and women in mid-2022.
I'm not female. I have no "direct" tie to
abortion and reproductive justice. They are Most
Important to Me! I do the work For Myself! If I
were to do the work - "for the women" - inevitably
- I'd be doing "charity" - helping "those poor
women" - a condescending sexist perspective.
When I saw a significant proportion of the girls
and women entering the clinic looking exhausted
(from a sleepless night) and scared, I felt a rage
and an intense sadness! Unlike many, such feelings
motivate me to try to do more! Shutting down,
drowning in my feelings - as many do - is Not an
Option for Me.
Producing and (hopefully) facilitating white
people (often men) doing Anti-Racism work is also
hugely important to me!
Links to the videos of past efforts and many of
my writings and more (far too much for any one
person to delve into) - are at:
www.georgemarx.org/2022/11/much-better-later-than-never-in-total.html
I work with a partner - in all my work - besides
most of my writing. The "white male way" - of
either working alone - or breaking away - when we
get any pushback - doesn't work for me!
Thanks!
Introduction Part 2
I don't know completely what it was that attracted
me to my first men's group, though I have one clue.
Obviously, I wanted some type of connection with
other men. Larry and I bonded right away, and we've
been friends ever since. We both dropped out of the
group, very quickly. I remember one "liberated"
man, who seemed most proud of his great seduction
techniques with multiple women. Clearly,
significant numbers of our group, were more into
rationalizing their sexism and helping "teach"
other men to be better manipulators, than exploring
themselves, self-critically and being accountable
to others and themselves.
Not that long after dropping out, I went to my
first men's gathering at Haimowoods, where I first
(baby version) woke up. A much older gay man
latched on to me. He played up to me, pleading and
more. I had two opposing reactions. I didn't want
to be pursued, and stuck in his deep seated
insecurities. At the same time, I felt sexual and
emotional desires for men (for the first time).
I began my men's work seriously, successfully
helping create another men's gathering, with
cooperation from several men in The Twin Cities,
Madison, Milwaukee, and Chicago. B1 and I decided
to move to Madison, buying a second house. B1 got
transferred in her job to Madison, where she lived
with Glenn and Steve, two gay men. I remained
during the week in Chicago with two het female
housemates.
After getting transferred to the Rockford Social
Security Office temporarily, and then the
Janesville, WI office permanently, my full time
life in Madison began. Eight of us Madison Men's
Center men began meeting regularly, talking of
doing serious work on some issue related to men and
our violence and/or sexism. In October, 1983, we
were greatly inspired hearing Andrea Dworkin's
first speech to a predominately male audience at
The Upper Midwest Men's Conference in St. Paul. Her
speech: "I Want A 24 Hour Truce During Which There
Is No Rape" is online.
Men Stopping Rape, Inc - beginning in late 1983,
is the one thing I'm proud of co-founding and
working with before the last few years. I wish that
I could have sustained my commitment to the work
beyond the birth of my son Ben, on my 36th birthday
in 1987.
I was a committed father for Ben's first two
years, until we moved, at my insistence, to Oakland
in 1989. Then I descended into a self-centered
abyss, assisted greatly by depression and emotional
isolation. My marriage floundered, and though I was
physically present with Ben, I didn't stay with him
emotionally.
I couldn't emotionally be with B1 or Ben,
because I had no self-love/ connection to my own
spirit! I was wrong! My therapists didn't
understand my deep-seated issues! My connections
with other men floundered.
I'd learned significantly of the importance of
feelings, feminism and the dangers of toxic
masculinity. I hadn't, however, learned to be in my
own feelings - to delve deeply into who I really
am.
Gender - being male - masculinity -has been
and is a recurring issue in my life. While I
wanted to connect with men, really only women could
seemingly "hear" me - and accept me. Unfortunately
I dealt with this only superficially at the time as
well as for decades beyond the 1980's. This was and
is my issue, not "reality"!
It is challenging in acknowledge my failures.
I've also tried on multiple times to get help
through multiple therapists. These therapists until
my most recent one, never dug really deeply into
the root causes depression in my life. They
remained at the surface.
I have failed in much in my life. I've been the
one who has failed.
Why did my therapists, until my most recent
therapist - fail to reach me in ways that could
help me more significantly that simply helping me
escape immediate crises in my life? Are there
systemic failures in the "therapy business"? Are
neuro-typical therapists caught in a huge cocoon,
which limits their effectiveness to their fellow
neuro-typical clients?
I like to think that individually we have the
potential to understand and speak to our own
inability to really deeply understand something. I
face quite a few situations where I don't "get"
things. I can understand deeply in my head- my
brain - of the effects of systemic racism, sexism,
and queer phobias that B2, my partner faces.
Similarly, I can hear of how her father always
was telling her that she "should have done better"
- as in 5 A's and a B in school "should have been
straight A's"!
At a deep emotional level - I can't ever really
understand B2- nor others whose lives are quite
different from mine. At an emotional level - I feel
that many therapists - should feel similarly in
situations such as mine, in understanding and
communicating that understanding - that there is
something "there" - that they can't understand. In
this context, they should have been seeking someone
else to try to help me with what they couldn't help
me with.
At a thinking, intellectual level - I wonder if
perhaps I'm retroactively attributing blame - for -
others to see through me enough - to see more than
is humanly possible.
I can and do "laugh" (not "hah-hah") - at the
words of Grace, my last office manager, in 1998,
when she knew somehow that I'd be leaving Social
Security shortly, beginning my Department of Labor
portions of my career. Recreating the basic things
that were said:
Grace: George, we're going to really miss
you (when you leave Social Security
shortly)?
George: Grace, what do you mean?
Grace: You've been doing 50% of the claims
work in the Title II Unit.
George: Oh!?
The backstory briefly: Evidently I was doing the
work of three claims representatives. I rarely made
substantive mistakes, and was well-liked by the
claimants I served. My "laugh" - is the evident
fact - that I faced that doing three times as much
work as I was expected to do didn't in any
way merit: 1. Excellent - performance
evaluations, and/or 2. Being given a cash reward -
for excellence, and/or: 3. Being promotable - at
all.
Loyalty - e.g. - fitting in and "kissing a_s" -
proclaiming the "wonders" of management was all
that was valued! My autism - certainly related a
lot to my inabilities to "understand" and
"conform".
After I retired in 2006 and moved from the Bay
Area to Seattle, retirement was certainly better,
though I still remained lost from finding my
(current) meaningful life. I was a lousy partner
for B2, and was very lucky that she didn't dump me
or let me go when I threatened to leave our
relationship.
Around 2010 or so, I became very enamored of my
bridge partner Lorraine Leach, who was 39 years
older than me. She was a legend and quite a
character in the duplicate bridge community of
Seattle. After she broke her hip at age 100, I
became a daily visitor of hers for quite awhile. I
stopped visiting her when I couldn't handle her
increasing dementia.
Around 2012 - tied in with this, I went from
feeling proud of myself to the deepest depression
of my life. The depression eased roughly 3-4 years
later and by late 2017 I was getting close to
normal, if not "normal".
In 2018, we moved to Chicago, just before the
birth of our granddaughter Hazel. Things were
difficult for B2, while I felt very attached to our
new life.
In November, 2018, our relationship imploded
when B2 discovered a major betrayal of mine.
Thankfully, B2 didn't leave me then, nor in the
several years beyond then, when things remained
tough for her (particularly).
Seemingly, coincidentally, after the implosion,
I woke up - really woke up - for the
first time in my life. I recognized how my:
"tit-for-tat" - rationalizations of my behavior and
words - were wrong and started an accelerating path
that continues - today!
In Part III of my Introduction- I will
further explore - the most meaningful period of my
life: November, 2018 continuing through the
present. The heart and soul of me - will
hopefully give this (to this point) dull reading -
more relevance - for anyone reading this.
Thanks!
Introduction - Part 1
I hope that at least a few of you, will appreciate
hearing a little of the "me" that I hope to share
with you! I don't claim to be an "expert" about
(white particularly) men's issues, nor anything
else, for that matter. I think that my journey,
particularly recently, has some interesting parts
to it. Where I bore you, you can choose to explore
other parts of how I continue seeking meaning in my
life.
I was named after my paternal great-grandfather
George Marx (a youngest son), who sold his bank to
Deutsche Bank (I think) in 1904. He was a notable
in Koenigsberg, now a part of an independent
Russian state in what used to be extreme Eastern
Germany. His youngest son Moses Marx was recruited
from Berlin to Cincinnati, becoming the Chief
Cataloger of Hebrew Union College's Library, in
1926. His youngest son (Menachem) Imanuel Marx (,my
father,) emigrated with his older brothers and
their mother in 1927, growing up becoming a
mathematician.
My father spoke German with a German accent,
French with a German accent, and English, with an
American accent. He was quite intelligent, but
struggled to be successful professionally, not
getting tenure at The University of Michigan. I was
born in U of M Hospital on May 16, 1951. The four
of us in my immediate family were in a Civil Rights
March in Lafayette, Indiana in the summer of either
1961, or 1962. Dad died of stomach cancer Friday,
November 13, 1964 (when I was 13).
I was taught the importance of learning and
intellect in in a family where feelings, except my
father's anger, were rarely expressed. My father
taught us a lot about Judaism, while believing as
his father had, that public prayer, and significant
involvement in temples or synagogues was mainly for
show.
I had insecure attachment to both my parents. I
was emotionally very alone growing up. I was (and
am) an Aspie - neuro-divergent, though I didn't
learn of this until December of 2019. We were
taught at home that we were "different" and things
were done (mostly) Dad's way, not the "popular"
way(s). We didn't have television until after my
father's death, because he wanted us to read a lot.
We lived on cheap clothes from Sears and Penneys,
when it wasn't hand-me-downs from close family
friends. Popular culture was ignored and looked
down upon.
I was the only one who cared about sports!
Starting in either 2nd, or 3rd grade, I (by myself)
had Purdue (men's) season basketball tickets. I
walked alone nearly a mile in the winter evening's
darkness to and from the games. I hung out at the
Purdue Union in the late afternoon weekends,
watching Wide World of Sports on their tv set.
I was tall and clumsy! I was ashamed of being
the last boy chosen for the kickball teams during
recess. Three boys two grades ahead of me, punched
me, and otherwise bullied me, whenever I came
across them. I was scared of boys. Girls weren't as
bad, but they weren't friends either. Senior year
in high school was the first time I had a decent
friend, Rob.
During a remission of my father's cancer (which
he hadn't been told he had), we were based in
Zurich in 1962-3, where I attended a private
British School, along with my younger brother
Daniel. We were free to travel on the trams with
each other throughout Zurich, as long as we were
home before it got dark. One of my few memories of
(seeming) "friendship" of my childhood, was riding
in the convertible of a classmate's father, one
time during that year.
It was wonderful seeing a lot of Europe that
year! We didn't go to Germany, because of the
Nazi's, nor Spain/Portugal, because of their
fascist leadership. We arrived in Haifa on an
Israeli ship just before Passover, 1963. I met my
most esteemed relative (though I barely remember
him) SY Agnon, who later on made the front page of
the Lafayette Journal and Courier in 1966, when he
became the first Israeli Nobel Laureate
(literature). Frieda Fromm-Reichmann, a noted
Freudian Analyst, and the first wife of the noted
social psychologist Erich Fromm, was a more distant
relative.
My mother's family was Russian-Polish Jewish,
their Shtetl background, contrasting significantly
with the German Jewish royalty of my paternal
ancestors.
Seemingly coincidentally, I "grew up more
quickly" in 1965, after my father's death. I won a
competition at school in the 60 hard dash, and
finished second in the 100 yard race. More
significantly my grades began rising succeeding
year. Upon the encouragement of my economics
teacher (summer-school after freshman year), I
began taking economics courses at Purdue University
in the 10th grade.
In the 11th grade I lettered in cross country
and track, played in the band, orchestra, and dance
band, and was taking an economics class at Purdue
each semester with junior level university
students. I had my first girlfriend Carol, a
freshman. I held her hand, but I never kissed her.
I remained emotionally alone.
12th grade was my "hippie rebellion" year. Lazy
adolescent that I was, I delivered the Indianapolis
Star seven mornings each week before school,
practiced the French horn, about 90 minutes each
day, and struggled through accelerated calculus at
Purdue, having given up my high school sports.
I auditioned for my seat in an "All-Star" Band
in December, and was seated in the 2nd chair (out
of eight). Al G Wright, Purdue's band director,
having not heard me play a single note, nearly spat
out: "They let you in band that way" (commenting
upon my long hair and beard, totally forbidden for
university (male) students he lead), followed by
two further insults, to which I remained
silent.
By amazing coincidence, upon returning to band
and orchestra Monday and Tuesday the following
week, I was informed that I had to groom myself
totally differently if I were to remain for the 2nd
semester. I, of course, refused!
A vivid memory as to how I viewed Indiana came
in January, 1969, at 17 ½. I was technically
both a freshman full-time student at Purdue, and a
high school senior (accelerated English class first
period each weekday morning). I was walking on
campus in the cold, when a male student I saw only
briefly said directly to me: "God Bless Napalm!" I
was stunned!
In December, 1968, at Northwestern University's
basketball arena, I got drunk for the first time,
while watching Janice Joplin perform for the first
time. In February, 1969, I saw The Grateful Dead,
followed by in May Led Zeppelin (who I had never
heard of), Jimi Hendrix in June, and then both the
Atlantic City Pop Festival and Woodstock that
summer. I was "in love" - with this amazing
music!
In Madison for my first semester at The
University of Wisconsin, my identity - was "ANTI-"
war, Indiana, etc. I sought psychiatric assistance
after several weeks of school. Similar to
succeeding therapy frequently over the next almost
50 years, I got out of my immediate crises, but
there were no insights into - the deeper me - who I
really am. During this school year I alternated
between one day trying my best (and failing
miserably) at socializing with others, followed by
the next day staying totally alone from my
classmates.
At the beginning of my fourth year of (regular)
college, a mathematics graduate student showed
incredible insight, after listening to me for
perhaps five minutes. I had worked very hard
(rarely) when I loved classes, and done as little
as possible (mostly) in my other classes, averaging
studying close to one hour/week, except for the
last several weeks each semester.
He said, "I think you've learned to get by
solely on your brains. You haven't learned to
learn". I wish I had really heard him! I was
immature! I graduated not-certified to teach, after
getting fired in a paid student-teaching
internship, that I had been very lucky to have been
initially accepted in.
In August, 1970, I discovered blues music,
having attended the 2nd Ann Arbor Blues Festival.
Chicago became my future home to be when I began
attending monthly shows of Otis Rush at Alices
Revisited, a coffee-house, which allowed us under
21ites to attend its shows. After I graduated from
Wisconsin, and stumbled through some menial
employment, I moved to Chicago and got hired by The
Social Security Administration as a Claims
Representative, starting in December, 1973.
Ron W, my new manager, at 2306 W Lawrence
(Chicago North), called me into the office after a
few days there, in the late fall of 1974. At this
time, our office was totally overwhelmed with
claimants, as the SSI Program began. Quantity of
work - was the Only - meaningful expectation. He
told me that a supervisor had told him that I had
taken a break that was at least 45 minutes long.
After my first week had been completed, he tacitly
"complimented" (implying that I should ignore his
previous words) me, telling me that I, an
inexperienced first year claims rep, had lead the
office in interviews that first week.
I married B1, the first girlfriend I had had -
who I hadn't lost after brief time together, in
February, 1977. She loved me. I didn't love myself.
I didn't know myself. I had no capacity to love
(her). We did things together - spectator sports,
music, drinking. Where we didn't agree on things, I
pulled back, and she took over the load.
In 1981, I joined my first men's group through
The Chicago Men's Gathering. It significantly
changed my life. (More - in Part II - next
week).
Thanks.
©2023 George
Marx
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